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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I know, but have you added up the total?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is your best incomplete picture? It is something, and I have nothing.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay, but we have no concept of whether that 16,000 represents some or a majority. We need to know, for people to have an understanding and to learn. I accept that you have an incomplete picture, that you cannot stand over it and that it cannot be audited. However, somebody in the Department of Education and Skills has a ballpark estimate. It might be wrong, but it is something. Can you...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Even when it is all over, we still do not know how many.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: It could be a headline tomorrow.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is just to give us a better understanding; it is not to trap Mr. Ó Foghlú.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Please read it again.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: A total of 170,000-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: They represented 1.2% of what?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Of the population,

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Roughly 10% of that figure have made applications. That is the only figure I have.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am not asking Mr. Ó Foghlú to stand over it.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: At least, it gives us an estimate. Given that the Department had a vague idea of the licence agreements in operation for the schools at the time, why did Mr. Ó Foghlú consider the 2,000 figure was a valid starting point? It highlights a very major weakness in the original starting point.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. Ó Foghlú have any idea of how many of the 16,000 were boys and how many were girls? If he does not know, he does not know.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is not included in the Ryan report or any of the other reports.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: No.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Ó Foghlú confirm that the legislation provided that all of the awards given by the redress board, whether it was €60,000 or €100,000, would be disregarded as means when it came to making applications for social welfare payments? I presume the answer is yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is that a yes?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I would expect it to be. My next question is to the Comptroller and Auditor General. I had a conversation with Mr. Ó Foghlú at the beginning about when the meetings happened after the Ryan report was published in 2009. The offer of €352 million was made after a series of meetings. When the Comptroller and Auditor General was compiling his report, did he get records of any...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. McCarthy did not-----