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Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: How was that funded?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is the anticipated shortfall then?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Will anyone who is working at that time have a combination of pensions?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Did Ms Kerins qualify under the defined benefit scheme or the defined contribution scheme?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Did she hold the value based on the defined benefit scheme at the time? Was she able to transfer the value of the defined benefit scheme to the pension she has now received?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: When the defined benefit scheme was being wound up, was there any question that a contribution could be made towards the shortfall out of funds received by the Rehab Group?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: How many years?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is the approximate total value over those six years?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: How will that be funded?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: I wish to move on. We have just been provided with documentation in respect of Laragh Consulting. Am I correct in saying that the total value over the seven years is €409,744?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: We were led to believe that Laragh Consulting was not trading as a company. Was Mr. Poole aware of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Did that change the way payments were made?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What happened?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What was not Mr. Poole's business?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What was getting sorted out?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is it back on the register now?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: If we look at the payments over the years, there was an average of about €58,000. There was €40,000 in 2007, €69,000 in 2008, €44,000 in 2009, €60,000 in 2010, €51,000 in 2011, €66,000 in 2012 and then €80,000 in 2013. What were these payments for?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Would something like that have had to go to the board?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: If we look at the invoices, it was a direct discussion between Ms Kerins and Mr. Flannery on this particular work that was done.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Looking at the invoices, what was the purpose of it?

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