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Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: We have two sessions today. In our first, we will examine surrogacy regulations in other jurisdictions. On behalf of the committee, I welcome Ms Annette Hickey and Ms Justice Bronagh O'Hanlon. Joining us online are Mr. Richard Vaughn and Ms Cindy Wasser, who are coming in today from Chicago and Canada. I thank them for joining us. All witnesses are reminded of the long-standing...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank Mr. Vaughn.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank Ms Hickey. Senator Seery Kearney is unable to be with us today. She may be attending online but if she is not we will pass on Ms Hickey's regards.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank Ms Justice O'Hanlon. I will now open the floor to questions. Deputy Funchion is first on the rota.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Maybe ask them together.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: It is okay. We will continue. We have time if we keep the questions and answers brief.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: We cannot hear any feedback.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank Ms Wasser. Deputy Funchion also had a question for Mr. Vaughn.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I will allow the witnesses to respond but I ask them to keep the replies brief because other members have questions as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I ask Ms Wasser to be very brief because we are very tight on time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: That would be great.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank Ms Wasser. We will move on because there are three other members to contribute and we have only a few minutes left. If we do not have time to hear the responses, maybe they can be provided in writing. I call Senator Clifford-Lee. Am I correct that she is on campus?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Senator, we need to move on because we are hitting the time now. Is there any question on which you could ask for a written response?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Yes, but I am conscious that people are waiting to come in for the next session. We have another session that was meant to start at 3 p.m., so they are waiting. Is there is a question you could submit?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Thank you.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Who was the question on the birth certificates for?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Please be brief.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: On that point, we are not going to ask-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: No. Ms Hickey is not here representing her business. She is here to talk about the issues. Therefore, we are not going to be asking about individual costs paid in respect of particular services. Ms Hickey has answered the question and we can move on. I call Ms Wasser.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (9 Jun 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: We are tight on time. Mr. Vaughn has not had an opportunity to answer the Senator's question yet.

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