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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: We are having an interesting discussion. I wish to make a point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: Councillors up and down the country are arguing that there should be provision for more new housing in rural areas. If that happens, it will make it harder to provide a public transport system. Even if we could afford to provide a public transport system for that settlement pattern, it would be unreliable and slow because buses would be stopping at every house or junction. There are hard...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: My point was-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: My point though-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: The Senator and I are probably on the same page as regards rural transport.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: As the local authorities up and down the country are trying to agree development plans, the political weight is at a ratio of 9:1 in favour of more dispersed settlement and the right to one-off housing. This is where the debates lie. It makes it harder. It makes the every village, every hour model harder to achieve.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: Go ahead, Mr. Stanley-Smith.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: About 93% of the population is within 10 km of a town.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: These narratives that we must have electric vehicles for rural Ireland need to be dispelled because if many of the journeys people who live in rural Ireland do are often no different from those that people in the cities do. They involve travelling a couple of kilometres to the sports ground, the church or the shops. The obvious issue is safety. We need safe networks such that if somebody...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: Senator Higgins may go ahead.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: Is Mr. Stanley-Smith saying-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: Is Mr. Stanley-Smith saying it would be problematic from the point of view of getting community buy-in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: This is where the discussion is. Policy is one thing but communities across the country are going to be grappling with this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: Mr. Stanley-Smith is saying it is problematic, and I agree with him because it is hugely challenging but from a participatory democracy point of view, what is the approach?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: We must be fair to them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: We have the question but what is the answer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: It is a question we need to answer very quickly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: I am very interested in what the forum or dialogue looks like. Can Ms Clancy give examples in other countries? Is anybody getting this right? I dare say the challenges we have here are replicated in other countries.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: I have heard of it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Irish Experience of Community-led Climate Action: Public Participation Networks (8 Nov 2022)

Brian Leddin: We do not having something in Ireland and, hence, politicians will go to the representative bodies or lobby groups.

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