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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: Why did RTÉ switch from Deloitte to Grant Thornton? Does that not damage the reputation of Deloitte?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: Why was Dee Forbes not provided an opportunity to respond to the report that Ms Ní Raghallaigh issued last night?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: We know what RTÉ did but why did RTÉ not provide that opportunity to Ms Forbes?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: RTÉ would know a bit about journalism and one of the basic principles of journalism is that you provide a right of reply but RTÉ did not do so in this case. Why was that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: Was RTÉ afraid of the response?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: I will go back to the resignation of Dee Forbes and the board's call for that. Is it a matter for the board members to consider their positions, having made such a monumental error in denying the people of the country an opportunity to have answers to the questions that need to be answered? Do the board members not think that they have made such a massive error in this regard that they need...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: Does Ms Ní Raghallaigh accept that was a mistake? My colleagues and I do not have an opportunity to ask the questions we want to ask of the former director general because her resignation was accepted on Monday, which, remarkably, was two days before this hearing.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: How does Ms Ní Raghallaigh think that people feel looking in at that? It happens that two days before the hearing there is a resignation and the board accepts it. Then, the following day, there is a damning report of the same person.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: Everyone agrees that what happened was shocking. It is shocking and what is going on is still shocking but does Ms Ní Raghallaigh not accept that this was a huge error on her part because she has denied the people an opportunity for further interrogation in relation to this?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: That is not what I asked. I asked Ms Ní Raghallaigh if she accepts it was a monumental mistake on her part.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: I have asked Ms Ní Raghallaigh a question. I did not give an opinion. I asked if she accepts that it is, either yes or no. Ms Ní Raghallaigh either agrees with me or disagrees. Which is it? I am asking if she would do it again tomorrow. This is what I am asking. Would she?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: Ms Ní Raghallaigh knows that our remit only stretches so far. The witness knows that well.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: I am asking Ms Ní Raghallaigh now if she accepts that she made a mistake or does she stand over her decision?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: Did anyone on the committee-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: Did anyone on the board flag that actually maybe there would be some public scrutiny deserved by the people on this and that having the director general still in situ to answer questions would be a good idea? Did anyone think of that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: Was that raised by anybody at the board?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: In fact, ten weeks ago Ms Ní Raghallaigh was before the committee and was asked a number of questions. She did not even come back to us since then. That is how much regard Ms Ní Raghallaigh has for the Oireachtas and how much regard she has for the people. Her actions this week in seeking the resignation and in accepting the resignation sum that up.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: On Deputy McNamara's questioning, I am a little confused. Could I get clarification on the timeline of when Deloitte contacted RTÉ? Was Mr. Collins contacted before Ms O'Leary-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: -----about the problem?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Brendan Griffin: When I asked whether anyone knew before St. Patrick's day, he said, "No". Mr. Collins is before an Oireachtas committee.

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