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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: The ones I have are July. The number is 301,000. That is what is in the Oireachtas-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: So the CRU does not have any more recent ones. In the context of the increasing prices, I would have thought that it would have been continually reviewing maybe even on a monthly basis to see exactly how many households are in arrears.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: So the CRU does not know-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: I find it concerning that the CRU has come before a committee of politicians where energy prices are the topic of discussion and cannot tell me exactly how many homes are to date in arrears, either electricity or gas. It is almost October, every household in the country is facing enormous price hikes and it is unlikely we will see credits. If the CRU could find those figures, it would be great.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: In any market, the more demand there is, the higher the price. We have seen an increase in data centre demand from 5% in 2015 to 22% now, and going to 30%. Has the CRU ever done any analysis on the impact of data centre demand on prices across the board? That is my first question. The second concerns how much data centres pay for their electricity. The standard rate is roughly 34 cent...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Yes, but I am looking at the per unit cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: The total amount they paid for electricity was-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Mr. Mulligan does not think increased demand in the electricity market will push up electricity prices. Is that his contention?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Given that we have seen such an increase in demand from data centres, why have our electricity prices not gone down?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Just on those last points, the PR6 does not set aside any money for any further growth in data centres. It is only dealing with the existing data centres and those that have been approved. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Has it specified how much in that €18 billion is due to data centres?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: But have they actually specified, of the €18 billion-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Yes. I think 7% of data centres is the distribution load. It could be €1.5 billion for data centres.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: Just in relation to the pricing, which I will look into, if you are looking at just the cost of data centres from the generation aspect, because that generation crisis that happened a number of years ago cost millions or euro to deal with it, and now-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: They are costing us an awful lot of money.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate, Environment and Energy: Engagement with the Commission for Regulation of Utilities (24 Sep 2025)

Jennifer Whitmore: So, they will pay back what they-----

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