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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Yes, and perhaps a plurality of them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I am not going to get into this. There is no way I am going to get into a study of this issue in two minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: My point is that I have demonstrated to the Minister that Britain reformed its Athena SWAN charter. I asked the Minister questions that he has not given me specific guarantees on-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: -----including my questions concerning an individual's public rejection of the AS Ireland charter. Even just that would make him or her ineligible for promotion within a department or school that has adopted the charter. If people may have gender-critical views around people's sense of self, can the Minister give staff at third level colleges a guarantee that expressions of academic freedom...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: It is not my job to do that here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: That is fair enough.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Yes, but they might not get their funding for their research projects.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: It is frightening if there is a-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I will ask one half-question. A half-hour or an hour ago, and it was an interesting answer, the Minister confirmed he was not open to a reform of the leaving certificate. In the light of these-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: He said he is not open to looking at the CAO. I am not trying to put words in his mouth.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I did not mean to.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: What the Minister said was that it is not on his agenda to reopen the debate about the points system.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Well now, come on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: We are all going on the hoof here. I ask the Minister to give me some credit.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I am not trying to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Now, now. The Minister is trying to get away. That is what is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: It was an interesting half-question and it was not meant to put the Minister in any kind of a disadvantageous lie.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: My point is that the Minister said earlier that he is not open to looking at the points system and that way of access on the basis that the CAO is the best show in town until he sees another one. Okay, then. I would like a more reassuring answer as to whether he would be open to further discussion and examination of the Athena SWAN Ireland charter and how it is operating in light of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I am hoping for the Minister's vote.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Current and Future Plans for Further and Higher Education: Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (9 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Gabh mo leithscĂ©al.

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