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Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: I think Mr. Moloney is getting a feel for what we are looking for.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: As regards delivery, he will probably be aware of some of the other groups we are bringing in across the board to see where the timescales for some of the projects may be cut short in some of the areas. I am not talking about cutting corners, but sometimes things can be done in a different timescale than is happening at the moment. That is the gist of where we will be at - getting delivery....

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: That is that Cabinet group.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Is health on that group?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: As regards capital investment and the national development plan, how significant is the health capital expenditure? The Department might give us a feel on that.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: The maternity hospital.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: This plan will take us out to 2035. Is that the approximate timescale?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Out of the projects going into that plan, the Department might not know how many are expected, but as we come to July, I am sure it will. How many of those are expected to be completed within the ten-year timescale? Of those the Department does not expect to be completed, what stage are they at? Is it another year or another ten years? Some of them might take a long time. This is so the...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: How can the Department of Public Expenditure, NDP Delivery and Reform make an allocation to any Department if it does not have a list of the projects the Departments are talking about?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Surely the Departments have prioritised lists? The Department of Public Expenditure, NDP Delivery and Reform cannot hand out €1 billion to a Department and ask it to decide what it wants to do with it. Surely that is part of this process.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: When Mr. Moloney puts a price tag on a project today, is he giving us a price tag for the project to be completed this year or will it be a realistic assessment of inflation if it is a ten-year project and what is it expected to cost at the end? There is no point in starting with a figure based on 2025 prices when we know before we begin it will run until 2035. I suggest a plan that has an...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Are there any final questions-----

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: There being no further questions I thank Mr. Moloney and all of his colleagues from the Department. No doubt we will be meeting again. It is important we had an opening discussion. A minor point was touched on by one member. The witnesses said they are commencing consultation in June. In Ireland, consultation goes on forever. How can a consultation be launched in June and have a report...

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Is there a list of the usual people we talk to? Where does the public come into that?

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Will some of that be outside Dublin? I presume it will. I also presume that the construction sector will be involved.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. Cleary attending what has been an informative meeting. Earlier, we asked for a number of specific items to be sent on. They can be sent to us in writing and we will consider them in public session as soon as we receive them.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Is the plan to consult with-----

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: If the Department asked each of the chief executives, they could provide the information. We are in the real world, so it is important that it gets that.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: We do not want it said that a substantial number of local authorities were never even consulted on the matter.

Committee on Infrastructure and National Development Plan Delivery: Large-scale Capital Projects: Discussion (21 May 2025)

Seán Fleming: Our next meeting will be with Uisce Éireann on 28 May 2025. There is one piece of housekeeping work to do before the meeting concludes.

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