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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport: Active Travel and Greenways: Discussion (12 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: I thank the Chair. I apologise to the witnesses and the committee. UHL Hospital Group representatives are next door and I am attending that meeting as well. It is a bit of a juggle here sometimes on Wednesdays. At the outset, for transparency I want to say that, beyond being a TD, I am a farmer and IFA member, so I want to put that on public record today. When I have met farmers, I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport: Active Travel and Greenways: Discussion (12 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: One of the reasons I ask is that, during the previous Government, the then Minister, Eamon Ryan, famously came out and said there would be a 2:1 ratio of spending on sustainable travel versus traditional roads and rail, but the new Government, of which I am a member, has changed that. Has that been reflected in the spending purse TII has? Has there been a reduction?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport: Active Travel and Greenways: Discussion (12 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: And when TII talks about landowners, does it use intermediaries? What valuation system is used when TII goes to landowners?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: We have received apologies from Deputy O'Meara. I ask anyone attending remotely to mute himself or herself when not contributing so that we do not pick up any background noise or feedback. I remind all those in attendance to ensure their mobile phones are either in silent mode or switched off entirely. Members attending remotely are reminded of the constitutional requirement that in order...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: We can accommodate that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: I thank Ms McHugh. We will now go to members, who will have six minutes each. I will allow a 30-second overrun on this. I remind members and witnesses that questions have to be answered within the period. Occasionally they might hear me indicating that I must move on to the next speaker. I hope that we will have additional time at the end to allow the witnesses to summarise and close out...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: We may get more questions in later. I call Senator Tully.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: I am sorry to cut across the Senator. I will give him extra time. I just want to interject. Some of those questions are more appropriate to the inspectorate and some are more appropriate to NEPS. We have people here today with a very specific remit and the questioning has to be within that remit insofar as possible. I will give the Senator extra time in lieu of my interjection. Some of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: I would not ever compare the Senator to that man. Those are the Senator’s words.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: We are out of time, Senator. We might get a second round in. I am next on the speaking roster myself. I thank the witnesses for coming in. I really buy into this and the sooner we get it rolled out nationwide the better. There are many current and former teachers in the room. I think one quarter of politicians in Ireland have come through the teaching route. Any teacher standing at...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: To interject and bearing in mind that the teachers in here are now policymakers, I have not seen the efficiency of this happening in the classroom, going down the corridor and getting counselling support. I have not seen that happen in practical term. However, wearing my teacher hat, it would concern me that this additional layer of NEPS may be a bit excessive. Some children need...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: They are now more pulled to those schools than to all the other schools. This is only a small slice of their workload. It is so important – do not get me wrong – but it is taking up a lot of time. I would prefer to see this being more simple whereby a child has emotional problems, the school has detected it, consent is secured from the parent and the child gets some...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: I thank Ms McHugh. On the continuum and spectrum of mental health issues, there is cognitive impairment, low-level emotional issues and behavioural stuff and children in need of psychological supports. To use the witnesses’ parlance, if it is low-level emotional behavioural stuff, I would like to think that as this programme evolves - it is a great programme - that we could remove...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: I am out of time. I have to follow my own rules, as I say here every week. We will probably have an additional few seconds for everyone. Deputy Jen Cummins is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: I would say we will have a bit of extra time given the way we are going. I call Senator Curley.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: I think we should have more time for everyone in a little while.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: That concludes our main body of questioning. We will now go back to members, who can each have two minutes, and then to witnesses. Another Deputy has joined us. Deputy Conor D. McGuinness is very welcome. He is not ordinarily a member of the committee, but he is interested in participating. We will get a question from him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: I thank the Senator. It is a yes-no answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: Okay. Our next member is Deputy Roche.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Youth: Mental Health Supports in Schools: Discussion (6 Nov 2025)

Cathal Crowe: Deputy, you have used up your time. The witnesses can have a wrap-up statement at the end where they can deal with some of those questions.

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