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Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Joe Costello: Is it not time to recognise after succumbing to Fianna Fáil over the second terminal at Dublin Airport and most recently on the café bars issue that the Progressive Democrats are now lame duck coalition cheerleaders, no longer watchdogs as they purport to be to the public? No matter what way the Minister tries to portray his new proposals for the liberalisation of restaurant alcohol...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Michael McDowell: It has been suggested recently that the vintners' organisations have themselves proposed the reform of restaurant licence rules as an alternative to the café bar licence. I welcome their support, but I am quite sure that support would not have been voiced were it not for the decision to hold a public consultation on the café bar licence.

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Jim O'Keeffe: ...: That Dáil Éireann, concerned by: —plans by the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform to increase the number of outlets selling alcohol by providing licences for the opening of café bars; —the strong opposition to such plans expressed by leading health professionals and their consistent advice and evidence that greater supply of alcohol leads to greater consumption; and...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Paul Kehoe: Exactly. I applaud the Fianna Fáil backbenchers for killing the café bar proposal at birth. I admire the manner in which they opposed the Minister. He was like a spoiled child in that he had to get his own way so he decided to turn to the restaurants instead of the café-style bars. It was a case of getting them one way or another. It took the threat of Fine Gael's motion to make the...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Brian O'Shea: Tááthas orm labhairt ar an díospóireacht thábhachtach seo ar an moladh a bhí ag an Aire Dlí agus Cirt, Comhionannais agus Athchóirithe Dlí ceadúnas a chur ar fáil chun "café bars" a oscailt. Tá sé sin curtha ar leataobh agus is é atá i gceist anois go mbeidh cead ag bialann de gach aon sórt alcól a dhíol agus nach mbeidh aon teorann ar líon na mbialann. Molaim Fine Gael as...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Joe Costello: ...restricted to describing it as a wilful misrepresentation of the facts, promoted in order to conceal the truth and save face. The proposals of the Commission on Liquor Licensing in regard to café bars were designed simply to allow for new small pubs. It said that: "The current requirement to extinguish an existing on-licence should not apply where the premises for which the licence is...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Michael McDowell: ——that I have and will listen to the expression of public opinion. I advanced the proposal for café bars because my Cabinet colleagues asked me to put it out there for consultation.

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Michael McDowell: ...add that he has recently taken steps to make the opening of an off-licence a matter that requires planning permission and not a matter for exemption under the Planning Acts. The creation of a café bar licence was a recommendation in the final report of the Commission on Liquor Licensing. As stated, the commission was a broadly representative body, which included representatives of the...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Paul Kehoe: ...he had to say he was wrong. For a long time the Minister has been given a blank cheque by Fianna Fáil to dream up any legislation he wished. They found to their cost that the legislation on café bars was closest to his heart. He pushed his plan against the advice of most professionals and experts in the area until a rebellion on the Government backbenches caused his latest climb down....

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Tom Hayes: I am pleased to have the opportunity to contribute to the debate on the Government's proposal in regard to café bars, an issue about which I feel strongly. The serious problem of binge drinking in Ireland is being approached from the wrong angle. The proposal to introduce café bars is a quick-fix solution which assumes that if these venues are opened up all over Ireland people would flock...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Jim O'Keeffe: .... He's actually going to make matters worse." Dr. Ann Hope, the national alcohol policy adviser to the Minister's party and his ministerial colleague, the Tánaiste, Deputy Harney, warned: café bars are not going to reduce binge drinking. You cannot parachute a culture from one country into another. Now that the debate has moved on we have an opportunity to discuss the Government's...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Michael McDowell: ...a current licence. I had intended to retain this provision, which many regard as restrictive and anti-competitive, as part of an overall package that included the creation of the new café bar licence. Without the café bar element, its retention will have to be reassessed. A question that now needs to be addressed is whether the decision to replace the café bar licence by a liberalised...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Jim O'Keeffe: ...out to be empty, he decided to divert national attention away from his record in office. Instead of allowing the focus to centre on his appalling record, as usual, he went for the headlines. Café bars were a convenient headline and, he thought, a convenient cover. He thought wrong.

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Joe Costello: I consider the stark way it is put undesirable. I do not accept that the Minister's proposed provisions will combat the sale and supply of alcohol to under age persons, no more than café bars would have contributed to a reduction in under age drinking and binge drinking. The Minister is aware of my opinion on this matter, that the problem cannot be addressed without tackling sales to minors...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Michael McDowell: ...a Circuit Court certificate will eventually be granted. An applicant for a public house licence can, on the other hand, avail of the declaratory procedure and can secure the certificate before embarking on the project. Holders of special restaurant licences are restricted from engaging in any other business that is not ancillary to the provision of substantial meals. This prohibits them...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Liam Twomey: I would like to know exactly what happened here in regard to café bars. I would like to know what power the 42 members of the espresso gang has within Fianna Fáil that has led to this debacle for the Minister. Will they take credit in their constituencies for preventing it being overrun by the ravioli and Chianti set or are they exercising a power over Ministers that we have not seen...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Pat Breen: The Fine Gael Party was the first to point out the self-defeating role café bars would play in the Irish drink culture. I am pleased to note the Minister has abandoned these proposals. I am delighted he is back from the meeting with the parliamentary party and perhaps he will elaborate on it later. Both Deputy Hogan and I invited the Vintners Federation of Ireland to address the Joint...

Liquor Licensing Laws: Motion. (14 Jun 2005)

Jim O'Keeffe: ...in terms of their size and so on? Are these not the real issues? Are these not the types of possible solutions we should debate rather than the madcap, theoretical, social engineering idea of café bars on which the Minister has spent such time and energy? While he is pondering that question, he might also ponder the issue of enforcement. The Fine Gael motion points to the necessity to...

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