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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Mr. Tim Kirby: Absolutely. For any procedure like chopping, there must be disincentives around that regardless of where the people see the dogs, be it out in public, at a show or wherever else. If there is a controlled environment where there are a lot of dogs, it should be possible that the area is regulated to some extent. I know from discussing this with many dog breeders that, for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Paul Donnelly: I thank Dr. Kirby for his report and I am shocked by his findings. I have a husky dog and I am beyond puzzled as to why somebody would subject an animal to this torture. I find the situation really disturbing and upsetting. Some of my questions have been asked and I want to discuss the demand for these animals. Anecdotally, I know through social media, that one sees images of cavapoos...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Martin Browne: It is crazy to think that I could decide tomorrow morning to carry out any one of those three procedures and there would be no comeback against me. Is most of the abuse of these dogs, of designer breeds as they have been described, being carried out not by the owners of puppy farms but by backyard breeders, to borrow a term used to describe them by a woman from my home town of Cashel? In...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Martin Browne: The Department had given the impression that the dogs with cropped ears were being exhibited at shows and so on. Has Dr. Kirby a view with regard to sanctions that could be put on people who are running these shows if they regularly have dogs with cropped ears showing up? If they are not in place currently, are there any sanctions he would like the Department to bring in to stop the display...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Mr. Tim Kirby: It is a good point. If we take it from both ends of the spectrum, on one end, we would have the finest bred pedigree dog and, on the other end, many of the dogs - I would add the caveat not all of them - would be high end pedigree but would have issues such as restricted noses where they cannot breathe properly and have airway issues. We are trying to bring in new breed...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Lynn Boylan: ...uses because of its invasive nature? I know it is used quite a lot in greyhound racing as well as in the puppy farms. The other issue is the requirement to register only breeding bitches. A dog breeding establishment has to register only if it has six or more bitches. Do we need to move on this? The purpose of these sessions is to look at how fit for purpose the law is. Do we need...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Mr. Tim Kirby: Surgical insemination is certainly an invasive procedure, and by that we mean opening into a body cavity. Obviously, a dog needs a general anaesthetic. That carries a risk. We do not give a general anaesthetic very lightly because of the obvious risks it carries, which are the same ones for an animal as for a human. That is one factor that must always be considered. Is it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Lynn Boylan: ...My question is on ear cutting and how we strengthen enforcement against that. One issue is public awareness and making it almost that people would be shunned if they were walking around with a dog that has this procedure done to it. When the Dublin Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, DSPCA, representatives were before the committee, they were talking about the potential of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

...no practical purpose to continuing the practice. However, in more recent times, particularly just pre-Covid, the practice re-emerged. It fits in with all of the desired aesthetics. Many of these dogs are now bred purely for their looks and there is no other logical reason for them. This fits in with the idea that dogs with short ears that are not floppy are deemed to be more...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

...and there are many issues in between, but we have to start somewhere. We will not have everything resolved in 2022 but we have to start somewhere. For example, the Deputy referred to the issue of dogs that look abnormal. Many of these dogs are coming from units that are breeding 300 and 400 bitches and they are breeding them endlessly throughout their lives - they are literally churning...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

..., some unscrupulous breeders seized the opportunity to capitalise and extort. With the demand for certain breeds such as brachycephalic, otherwise known as brachys for short, including French bulldogs, pugs and shih tzus at unprecedented levels, the supply of these puppies was seen by many as a passport to riches at any cost. As a result, more and more people resorted to using artificial...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Paul Daly: ...and volume of artificial insemination and ear cropping. We need to raise public awareness of the issue. There would be people like me who, if they were to go with a family member to buy a dog whose ears were cropped, would not be aware of how or why that happened or that it was not the natural shape of the ear of that breed of dog. Until the end user or final purchaser is fully aware of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

Martin Browne: ...? Is there a tracing system for these medicines? If so, has a regulator been informed that batches of these medicines have gone missing and ended up in the hands of criminals or unscrupulous dog handlers?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Health and Welfare Act 2013: Post-Enactment Scrutiny (Resumed) (23 Feb 2022)

...not even have those drugs available. They would be using human drugs. People have given various human medicines to animals. Some of the breeding establishments do that to control the fertility of dogs and use pain relieving drugs. Some people will raid their human drug cabinet to see if those drugs will work on a dog with the consequent major risk and side effects of that for any...