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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Has the response been good?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Would Mr. Larkin accept that the State's cybersecurity activity is grossly underfunded?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is Mr. Larkin talking about the public or private realms?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Why has cybersecurity moved front and centre now? Three to four years ago, this was not common parlance. It is now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Since when?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is more lucrative to be in cybercriminality than in the drugs trade.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Are these mainstream insurance companies?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is the average amount paid out?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: How many cybersecurity breaches are settled with cash payments?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: What percentage of such breaches are settled in that fashion?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Two thirds of all cybersecurity breaches-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Which is what happened with the HSE.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is prevalent, however, and the companies attacked are paying out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is not even the companies themselves. Their insurance companies are paying these ransoms.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: How can that be overcome? How can companies fight back against such breaches?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Will the State have to move to abate such activities, similar to what we have done previously? Will we have to call out states involved in cybercrime?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We need something like the Geneva Convention in this area, as Dr. Scott has suggested.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I hand the floor back to Deputy Ó Murchú because I took some of his time. He has five minutes and then we will conclude.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Dr. Scott has much to answer for.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Cybersecurity and Hybrid Threats Following the Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will start with Mr. O'Reilly. I see he is keeping Irish writers in a prominent position in his office. It is good to see Samuel Beckett and James Joyce prominently on view. His Irish roots are obvious.

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