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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I welcome the delegation. I want to put on record that I dispute the points made by the previous questioner. There has been a range of concerns that many of us have had for several years about this entire project. It would be interesting just to get some figures on the earlier claim. Perhaps they could be provided to us in relation to the provision of termination services. My...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Sorry-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: That is not what I said. I said I am curious to know about terminations being carried out in line with the 2018 Act.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I said that many of us have been looking for details in relation to the scale of that work. It would be helpful if we had those.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: In certain circumstances.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I am sure there are some circumstances where they are carried out and it would be helpful to get information on that. Would it not have been better, rather than trying to rush this through the Cabinet last week, if the Minister had made the legal documents available to the rest of us who have a duty to scrutinise Government decisions? Considering the scale of this project and the amount...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Okay. By all accounts, the intention was to sign off on this last week at the Cabinet meeting. As a result of the public outcry, thankfully the documents have now been made available. Given the complexity of this whole project, including the documents, and to be fair about this and give people a reasonable amount of time - we have been given one week, not two weeks - to consider these...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: We do not have two weeks in terms of sessions such as this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: It is just this week.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: In light of the concerns expressed here and the very serious public concerns, is the Minister prepared to recommend to Cabinet to hold off for another couple of weeks to consider this matter adequately?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Okay. I asked the Minister if he would suggest, as the relevant Minister, that some further time be given. Would he recommend that to his Cabinet colleagues?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: That is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: The Minister has given a potted history of this project going on for almost a decade now. Does he accept the reason for the delay has nothing to do with those of us who have had serious concerns about this project and, rather, has everything to do with the fact that successive Governments and four successive Ministers have not been able to bring this deal across the line in a way that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Sorry, perhaps the Minister can just give me----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: It is not the fault of people who have been raising concerns. Does the Minister accept that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I welcome Dr. Boylan and Mr. McGarr. I will pick up on Deputy Lahart's last point that everyone is in favour of this. Certain people are. I have to correct Deputy Lahart about that. A lot of people are not in favour of this because there are too many doubts about it. There is a lack of certainty and a lack of clarity. The Deputy mentioned the midwives' statement. I thought it was quite...

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