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Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: Would the Deputy accept a reply in writing?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I move on to Deputy O'Reilly. The Deputy is taking ten minutes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Deputy O'Reilly. Deputy Butler is next, she is taking ten minutes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: Apologies. Mr. Walsh may come back in on that point.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Mr. Walsh.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Deputy Smith. I call Deputy Shortall.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I ask Mr. Breslin to provide a reply in writing to that.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Mr. Breslin and call Deputy Michael Collins.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: As this matter is not within the committee's terms of reference, the witnesses are not required to answer the Deputy's question. They are, of course, free to respond to him in writing if they so choose.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: If it is very brief, yes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I think we covered a lot of that in the last-----

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I do not want to speak over Mr. Reid but I think we covered a lot of that in the last session.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Deputy Donnelly. I have a number of questions. I will try to keep them short and I would appreciate it if the witnesses could keep their answers short as well, if possible. In response to Deputy O'Dowd, who pointed out that 22% of nursing homes were not HIQA-compliant, Mr. Breslin pointed out that there is a power to seek deregistration in the courts. In the meantime, however is...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: Even if it is registered and failing, the HSE continues to pay them?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: Yes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: Does the HSE pay for new patients in nursing homes that are not HIQA-compliant and are failing infection-control guidelines?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: Does the HSE pay for new patients going into the 22% of nursing homes that are failing?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: Merely failing infection control is not, therefore, an impediment. Mr. Walsh mentioned discharge, and said individual clinicians were discharging people who were inappropriately in acute hospitals. Can he confirm that only people who were inappropriately in acute hospitals were being discharged?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: I get all of that. My question was: is it only people who were inappropriately in acute hospitals and whose planned treatment had been completed who were discharged? Can Dr. Henry confirm that or not?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (Resumed) (18 Jun 2020)

Michael McNamara: Was it only people whose course of treatment had finished who were discharged?

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