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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: What was the nature of the work that was done? Why was there resistance to paying for it? Was a rationale given for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: How long----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: How long did this go on for?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Was any sanction taken against that individual?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Has anything changed with the route through which bills are put through? Have any changes been implemented in the Department to stop that from happening again? It is a sizable additional amount of money, over and above-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Dr. Quinn pursued the issue of whether the Department could take sanction against the person who sat on these payments. That person must have received repeat statements, reminders and all of the rest of it. Nobody is going allow that amount of money to drift. Why was it not possible to take sanction against the person who sat on this amount?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: What grade was the person who held on to these payments?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Okay. It was at a senior level.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: I am going to move on to talk about the Office of the Director of Corporate Enforcement. I want to ask some questions about the vacancies there. It is an important office. It will be moving to a new office. I think it is due to do so in the new year. The legislation is certainly going through the House at the moment. It may well have just concluded, although I am not sure what stage it...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: I ask Dr. Quinn to provide a breakdown of those separately - who the staff are and what the vacancies are - rather than going into it in detail now. In 2015, the then Secretary General of the Department of Taoiseach stated that commissions of investigation and tribunals had cost the State in the region of €500 million up to that point. Obviously, that cost has increased since....

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Will the corporate enforcement agency and the ODCE pay the salary of the gardaí during the time they are seconded there or will they continue to be paid by An Garda Síochána? If Dr. Quinn does not know the answer to that, she can come back to us on it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: As regards staffing, will all the staff move to the new agency?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: When is the new agency due to come into being?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: If it is to start in the new year and the Department is still talking to staff and it is not yet certain, is there going to be a gap?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: I wish to move on to the Workplace Relations Commission, WRC, work programme. What kind of impact did the pandemic have on the Workplace Relations Commission, the Labour Court and the like in terms of backlogs? Are there backlogs? How are those backlogs being handled?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: There is a plan to deal with the backlog.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: To follow on from some of the points made by other speakers, I refer to local enterprise offices, LEOs. I understand local authorities had the information in terms of who the rate payers were and how the scheme was structured. I, too, got a lot of compliments from people who said it was the difference between staying afloat and going under. I understand there was speed associated with...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Has the Department evaluated the cost of creating jobs at various levels, including IDA Ireland, Enterprise Ireland, and at the microenterprise level?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Dr. Quinn made a point earlier about Microfinance Ireland. What is the failure rate?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 32 - Enterprise, Trade and Employment
Chapter 6 - Covid-19 Restart Grant Schemes
(18 Nov 2021)

Catherine Murphy: There is a 77% success rate.

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