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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: This is whataboutery.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: It is either illegal to occupy territory-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: Could I hear from Ms. Hausdorff?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: Is this not also whataboutery? Can Ms Hausdorff not answer the question as to whether Israel's enforced occupation of Palestinian territory is contrary to international law?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: We can agree to disagree on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: May I ask Ms Hausdorff a separate question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: I know Ms Hausdorff has been cut off a few times. I do not mean to do that but all witnesses here have constantly conflated Jews and Israelis. I presume Ms Hausdorff would accept that they are not the same thing. There are Jews who are not Israelis and there are Israelis who are not Jews.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: If they are producing goods in settlements, then they are targeted and, in my view, they are appropriately targeted because they are acting contrary to international law.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: Does Ms Hausdorff accept that there has been conflation and that statements from other persons that this Bill is antisemitic conflates the idea that it is targetting Jews? Jews may be affected by it but, in fact, it targets settlements and people who are generating business illegally within illegally held land.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: Ms Hausdorff believes the motivation behind the Bill is antisemitism, however. That is totally incorrect.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: This does not answer the question. What this is doing is saying-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: They are all settlers if they are in settlements, are they not?

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: The first item on our agenda is engagement with witnesses. We are happy to welcome representatives from Dóchas, Concern and CONCORD Europe to continue our work in respect of the UN sustainable development goals, with a focus on overseas development, EU funding and the multi-annual financial framework. We are joined by Mr. Dominic Crowley, emergency director of Concern Worldwide, Ms...

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: I thank Mr. Crowley and the other witnesses. Members will be aware they have five minutes for questions and answers. Three members, namely Deputies Deputy Lahart, Crowe and Ó Murchú, have indicated. I call Deputy Lahart.

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: Who would like to take that?

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: Unfortunately, I do not have time to let others in on this, but if they want to come in at a later stage on any issue that has been left unsaid, we will give them an opportunity.

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: I might ask the witnesses a few questions. The budget is obviously a very pertinent issue and Mr. Crowley mentioned a figure of €18.2 billion in respect of the MFF. I am conscious he has said there is never enough money and there will never be enough money. The figure of €18.2 billion is the bare minimum. What would he be asking for as something that might meet what is needed...

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: I appreciate what Mr. Crowley is saying. It is kind of a balloon question in the first instance. He also mentioned the €800,000 worth of food that had been destroyed. I read that article in The Atlantic. How much of that was connected to Gaza? How do we avoid that happening again? Is it a question of money or is it logistics?

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

Barry Ward: The general chaos?

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