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Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I will take the next number of contributions before inviting the Minister to respond, just to try to move things on a little bit.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I ask the Minister to respond to the grouping.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: There are no further contributions. In that case, people know their minds on amendment No. 8 and we will move to a decision on it.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Standing Order 97(1) negatives a question when there is an equality of votes.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: We now move on to amendment No. 9. As I indicated earlier, this is, by my experience, an extraordinary grouping and I am obliged to read it into the record. The following amendments are grouped for address at this point. They are amendments Nos. 9; 12; 22 and 23; 44 to 48, inclusive; 73 to 75, inclusive; 77 and 78; 81 to 83, inclusive; 86 to 93, inclusive; 99; 102; 104 to 108, inclusive;...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Other members are indicating, but the committee may wish to hear the Minister reply to Deputy O'Callaghan first.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: There might also be eight lay members. I will tease this out for a moment. It is not a case of a win-win situation regarding any amendment or set of amendments. It is about helping the process to get the best result. I wonder is there, in the Minister's indication of a willingness to look again at this, the prospect of not dividing on this and allowing Report Stage to be an opportunity for...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: That is separate to the specifics of this group of amendments. I am endeavouring to find a situation to allow us to move forward, in the hope there would be consensus reached at least on Report Stage. How does Deputy O’Callaghan respond?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: As there are no further contributions would the Minister like to make any closing remark before I pose the question?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Are any other members offering?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: My position is that I absolutely hold fast to the importance of a lay majority. I think that is crucial and central. There are strong views reflected here on the proposed methodology. I favour a more integrated engagement on the consideration across any and all of the appointments to be made. I share that view in advance of taking the vote. Is the amendment being pressed?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Amendment No. 10, which is in the names of Deputies O'Callaghan and Chambers, was already discussed with amendment No. 1. Is the amendment being pressed?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Correct.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Amendment No. 11 was discussed in the second grouping.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: There are no amendments to the section.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: That is noted.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Amendments Nos. 13 and 14 may be taken together.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Amendment No. 15 proposes the insertion of a new section. It is in the name of Deputy Sherlock. As Deputy Sherlock is not here to move his amendment, the amendment is not moved.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: Amendment No. 16 in the name of Deputy Ó Laoghaire proposes the insertion of a new section and acceptance of this amendment involves the deletion of section 7 of the Bill. If the question on amendment No. 16 is agreed, amendments Nos. 17 to 20, inclusive, that follow on amendment No. 16, cannot be moved. Amendment No. 16 is being taken with amendments Nos. 17 to 21, inclusive, and...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin: I will allow the Minister to respond at this point and then I will bring Deputy O'Callaghan in. Is that agreed?

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