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National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: That was not his position. He was speaking generally about the roles of programmes for Government over the past 15 to 20 years.

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: No. If the Deputy would like my answer, I can give him an answer.

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: I am not. If the Deputy wants me to answer the question-----

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: We are not in a kangaroo court where a preconceived decision is made.

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: So would I. I would love to see the Deputy trying to bring me into one. All programmes for government are subject to the budgetary circumstances. I refer him to every one of them, including the rainbow coalition programme and the Fianna Fáil-Labour Party programme. All commitments in every programme are subject to overall budgetary requirements because, otherwise, there is no reality to...

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: The Deputy, therefore, is saying he would not take this amount out. If he will not take it out one way, what way will he take this out? Is it going to be tax?

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: I am trying to figure out the Deputy's position.

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: It still does not make sense to me. That is why I am asking questions.

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: If Sinn Féin is not taking €15 billion out in expenditure, is it taking it out in tax or is it taking it out at all? Will it be taken out of one bank and put in another? Is the party bringing it down somewhere else and putting it somewhere.?

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: What does the Deputy want me to do with the deficit?

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: I am answering the questions but I am clearly upsetting the Deputy.

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: Rather than putting the questions, I will answer them as well.

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: Do I not welcome the formation of that group?

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: That is for sure. The Deputy should not worry about. I will not contaminate the Deputy's group with my presence. If the Deputy is saying we should leave the €15 billion in, then one is talking about continuing with the deficits we have. It is clearly the case that there is no access to funds available to this country on that basis and, therefore, by July 2011, when the Deputy goes up to...

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: Sinn Féin was not short of funds before. It has very creative ways of finding money.

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: It is not. The next way one closes it------

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: The Deputy cannot take this because Sinn Féin does not have a credible alternative.

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: If he is not taking €15 billion out in expenditure, he will have to take it out in taxation. We have, therefore,-----

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: The Deputy has suggested I have the wrong proposals. I have explained to him in the House over a number of weeks why I think ours have a better chance than his. He said, "No, we would not take it out" and then he said, "We would take it out". When I ask him how he would so, he is not prepared to say. The bottom line is in Sinn Féin's documentation there is an 80% adjustment through...

National Recovery Plan (14 Dec 2010)

Brian Cowen: That is what it says. I am not missing anything. That is the basic point and that is the biggest jobs killer of all.

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