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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: So that is it. It is not going to be five years. It is six years. I appreciate what we have been given. There were other issues, in fairness, that Mr. Malone had highlighted previously about poles and planning permissions. I assume someone will deal with those in their contributions. I thank the witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Others have said it was a bit hectic earlier moving from one location to another, but there is probably a fair amount of additional information in the public domain. That does not do any harm, from anyone's point of view. I have a couple of questions I want answered. I will not labour them greatly. Who or what is UTi Ireland LLC?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Is there further information on the company?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I would not like to have to draw the diagram.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Mr. Hendrick said he wants the journalists to engage directly with him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: It was always there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: In fairness, it is good to hear that, because that was our fear. I will be honest - it was the example of the initial paying of the €20 million performance bond that caused people to get worried and to think it was a cash flow issue, but that is not the case. I wish to return to the question of debt and equity or debt versus equity, for want of a better term. I will move through...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Mr. Hendrick said something earlier about getting a new investor or new funder that would give NBI the capacity to become a major international telecommunications operator. Would that be fair enough? I suppose that is being done on the basis that Mr. Hendrick does not believe the structure he has behind him is fit to do that business. I am not trying to catch him out in any way. I am just...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Investors give the capacity.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic and Roads Bill 2021, and Disability and Transport: Discussion (19 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I thank all the witnesses. I think the Chair summed it up when he spoke of their lived experience and understanding. What is needed is interaction with the Department particularly when we get closer to what we are proposing. People might have expected that the Bill would include more detail on how these e-scooters were to be used but much of it will be left up to regulation. We need to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic and Roads Bill 2021, and Disability and Transport: Discussion (19 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Mr. Fulham could speak about that. He spoke specifically about insurance and a number of other speakers mentioned licensing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic and Roads Bill 2021, and Disability and Transport: Discussion (19 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I agree and I believe that is where we will get down to it, around the age. Some type of training has to be involved, whether that is for buying, using or using a shared scheme. There may be a simplified way to do it. Then if there are limits relating to the speed of the vehicle combined with those other mitigations and protections with regard to where one can and cannot use it, that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic and Roads Bill 2021, and Disability and Transport: Discussion (19 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: There is a requirement on this committee to do some due diligence on that, particularly on those pieces of work. It is about seeing what works, what has not worked, where the dangers are and, as Ms Tinsley said, what is even being reviewed at this time. To some degree the genie is out of the bottle in the sense that, in the past year, we have seen very many more of these things. To be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Traffic and Roads Bill 2021, and Disability and Transport: Discussion (19 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I wish to add my voice to what has been said. This was a very worthwhile piece of work today. Obviously, there is a huge amount of interaction that needs to happen, particularly between the Department officials, the committee and the organisations represented by the witnesses. We need to come to a solution that is workable. I reiterate the point I made earlier in relation to a wider...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: It involves minor redesigns.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: The reason is that I asked about investors.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: NBI does not need those investors.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: In fairness, Mr. Hendrick was clear that he was talking post this. I accept some of what the Chairman said. Mr. Hendrick said NBI is looking for an investor that would want to invest long term. He might not be able to answer this question but is it fair to say that Oak Hill Advisors or whoever might not be that investor whereas somebody else with telecoms history might be?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Broadband Plan Update: National Broadband Ireland (27 Jan 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Or planning.

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