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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: I propose that we write to the universities and ask them if they will identify the courses they run that are directly related to an industry, as opposed to more general funding.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: In regard to IBRC, Irish Nationwide Building Society and Anglo Irish Bank accounted for something like €35 billion or €36 billion. The bank was liquidated and KPMG provided the liquidator. Essentially, the debate here has been in terms of oversight and a committee of selection, which was resisted by the Department. The longer this goes on, the more expensive it is going to...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: I think it may be representatives of the Department of Finance rather than IBRC that we should invite to specifically look at this issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: I hope so.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board is subject to a Garda investigation, and I think there would-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: I am not straying into that area but I would have believed the last thing we would have seen was non-compliant procurement. I am aware, however, that some of these bodies have particular challenges. I am amenable to the publication of the item but it just jumps out at me because there is history here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: We will probably come back to the station at Military Road. I will leave it and we can come back to that. I think it will be an ongoing issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: No, that is okay. This will be an ongoing issue because there are cases in progress.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Both the Joint Committee on Health and the Committee of Public Accounts expected to see that report. There was a change in the attitude of the Department. There was also a change in the Secretary General of the Department. We have had previous engagements at this committee with representatives of the hospital development board and we have gone through, in some considerable detail, some of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Part of the reason there was a slippage in the delivery time was that there was insufficient work at the early stages. There were not enough construction workers on that site. The point I made at a previous meeting was that contracts go both ways. There is an obligation to pay for the work that is done but, equally, there is an obligation to do the work that is contracted for. That...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Yes. Maybe the Comptroller and Auditor General will tell us as well when the most recent audit will be available to us because that might give us some useful information.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: Could it be sent to the relevant sectoral committee also?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: One of the first items in the reply dealt with complaints of defamation or libel. We were told we could not be provided with particular information because it would include amounts involved with individual settlements. It would actually be quite useful for us to get even a global figure for 2010 until now. That would not have the same impact. That is not RTÉ's fault because...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: I am happy for the correspondence to be noted and published.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: I do not doubt the seriousness of this. This is incredibly serious. However, Deputy McAuliffe has a point. We have no shortage of work and we do not enough have time to get to grips with it. I wonder if this is more of an issue for the Joint Committee on the Environment, Climate and Communications than it is for the Committee of Public Accounts? I do not think that anybody doubts...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Catherine Murphy: We are not going to disagree about that.

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