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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: I totally disagree.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: Excuse me now-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: That is not true.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: I need to go to the Ceann Comhairle-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: I will go to the Ceann Comhairle because that is a totally unfair statement by the Minister. If the Minister is more interested in playing politics-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: -----rather than solving the nitrates issue, it is a poor reflection on him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: It is Senator Lombard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: I think I will go to the Ceann Comhairle.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: I intend to.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: I will not ask the Minister why he sent his submission to us at 8.22 a.m. or had a Zoom call about not going to Brussels because I want to know what we can do now. The committee met the Commissioner. I want to acknowledge the four committee members who travelled. The Cathaoirleach led a really good delegation and my two colleagues seated on my left did a fantastic job when we met the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: I thank the Minister.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: Does that entail having a limit of 250 kg N/ha on the island?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: Is the Minister saying there is a possibility we will have a limit of 220 kg N/ha in the white zone? Clarity is required from him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: We do not know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: I would like to be helpful. When we met the Commissioner he gave the four committee members who sat in front of him for an hour the clear impression that, under a European Court of Justice ruling in June, we would have an opportunity, on 30 September, to make a further submission to clarify matters and look at the red map area. The Commissioner had the red map; one of his officials was...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: Okay. If the Minister is looking at having a 220 kg N/ha and a 250 kg N/ha limit and if we are successful, we will keep the 250 kg N/ha limit on this island. Would that be an appropriate statement?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: The information the Minister is looking at is the map on page 27 of the EPA report, which shows some areas in white and some areas in red. We call it the "Cork map" down our way. It suits us. Is that what the Minister is looking at?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: Okay. That clarity alone is very helpful because that information on what is being looked at was lacking in the Minister's press release and it is lacking in the farming community. This meeting has, therefore, been a success in some ways. Will the Minister explain what the detailed mapping proposes? What is he proposing to do? Is he proposing to put areas in or take areas out? What...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: Will the Minister take the information from the stakeholders' group into consideration when he makes that submission?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ireland's Water Quality and the Nitrates Derogation: Discussion (15 Sep 2023)

Tim Lombard: Before we go any further, I must declare that I am a derogation farmer who is contract rearing. I have only one way of meeting my targets, which is culling cows, so forgive me for being blunt, but this affects my livelihood.

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