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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Moving to furniture-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Are there different cap levels depending on family size?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Can Mr. Shannon provide me with some of the figures under this heading?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: What clothing is covered by an exceptional payment if somebody is looking for adult clothing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Apart from health issues, are there other examples of exceptional needs?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Does that come under the heading of adult clothing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: The breakdown I have under the heading of clothing is for adult and child clothing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Would that be an exceptional or an urgent payment?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: If clothing is damaged by flooding and the person concerned is in receipt of a social welfare payment, he or she would apply under the exceptional payment heading.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: I now understand the distinction. Can applications be made for Confirmation or First Holy Communion dresses or similar clothing under the heading of child clothing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: If a person needed assistance to buy a First Holy Communion dress which was expensive, because it was an important occasion, that would be----

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: It is up to the officer to make the call. Again, Ms O'Donoghue is talking about the difference in the way officers were making that call in different areas.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Is the Department achieving that standardisation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Under the heading of child-related expenses, we have pram or buggy and cot costs. Is there a cap on pram or buggy costs?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Under general categories, we have travel costs at a figure of under €2 million. Can Ms O'Donoghue provide an example of an exceptional need under this heading?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: The person might have to travel to Dublin for a certain reason.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: The household budget is €176,000. I am not sure what that means. Is that where someone has budgeted poorly?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: It is a list from the annual statistical information reports, published by the Department. Under the heading, general, it lists other travel costs, insufficient means, heating, lost and stolen money and household budget, making up a total of €8.6 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: I am curious about the household budget element.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter - 24 Supplementary Welfare Allowance
(18 Jul 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: There is a line here which refers to "other" and the amount is just under €3 million. Could Ms O’Donoghue get some detail on what that involves too?

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