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Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: Unlike many others, I paid tribute to my predecessor. The Deputy's question to me concerns: the reason records in respect of the banking guarantee were inappropriately shredded in his Department; the date on which he was informed of same; if he [has] had this matter investigated. The Deputy's second question is "to ask the Taoiseach the reason records of the banking guarantee decision were...

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: -----and those involved in the banking organisations; whether we had a record of what they had said and a record of the rationale applied by the Government. We do not.

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: There is no file in the Department of the Taoiseach.

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: I am saying that in the Department of the Taoiseach there is no file on the meetings that took place or the rationale applied. The Deputy is now telling me that this information is available. Perhaps he might tell me outside where it is in order that we can have a look at it. Up until the incorporeal meeting at that hour of the morning, there is no file in the Department of the Taoiseach...

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: If it is available, I do not know where we can find it. I am not suggesting my predecessor hid it under the table or anything else, but there is no evidence available.

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: I have said it was either shredded, disposed of or dispatched. Is the Deputy suggesting to me, from long years of experience, that when the chief executives and directors of banks come to meet members of the Government to make their case for a guarantee or whatever else, there is no written record available in the Department?

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: Is the Deputy telling me that no notes are taken and that meetings take place in secret? It does not happen. There is no file in the Department of the Taoiseach.

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: Perhaps the Deputy might reflect on where he was during the incorporeal meeting in doing his duty as Minister for Foreign Affairs. Did he ask questions?

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: Was the Deputy at the meeting?

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: Until that point, there were meetings and discussions and a rationale was applied by members of the Government in order for that incorporeal meeting to take place and the Deputy to be called on his phone and asked whether he agreed with the decision. The Government has no evidence of the rationale applied and of the meetings that took place----

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: -----and what was said at them.

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: In view of the fact that this was the single biggest economic decision ever made and foisted on the back of the taxpayer, I would have thought there would be plenty files on the meetings, what was said and why the rationale was applied in the way it was. There is none in the Department of the Taoiseach.

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: Have another march.

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: I am only trying to answer the questions asked - two by Deputy Micheál Martin and one by Deputy Richard Boyd Barrett. His question relates to the circumstances in which documents related to the bank guarantee were shredded in the Department. On 12 June I used the words shredded, disposed of and dispatched, but the fact is that there is no record in the Department of the Taoiseach with any...

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: For the single biggest economic decision which has caused mayhem within the economy and so much stress and pressure-----

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: -----there is no record of what happened in the lead-in to that decision, the meetings that took place, the discussions held and the rationale applied by members of that Government at the incorporeal meeting in the early hours of that morning. The late, lamented Minister for Finance called me that morning shortly after 7 a.m. to say there was a real problem with the banks and to ask about...

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: I was in a radio studio at the time and happened to speak to the Minister who had kindly contacted me shortly after 7 a.m. It was not a matter for discussion then. One would expect to find evidence in a Department as important as the Department of the Taoiseach, given that it was an issue of such economic significance and has been the cause of financial stress for so many since, but there...

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: It is not.

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: I inquired into it as a matter of deep interest to me and the nation. I read the few pieces of paper available and there is nothing in them of any consequence.

Departmental Records (17 Jul 2012)

Enda Kenny: I understand influential people called on the Government in the days prior to the decision to make their views known about the issues involved.

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