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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I have a question about the position of chief corporate officer. That position has been there for a number of years. Has the same person occupied the position and if so, for what period of time?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Which of the witnesses present were also here the last day?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: From the answers that are being given, it would seem that the chief corporate officer would have had a central role in negotiating all of this and much of the work around it but that person is not here today, so we will give that person the benefit of the doubt. On the last day, that person was not here because we were told they had a long-standing commitment and were unavoidably absent. Is...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Professor Kilcommins was provost at that stage.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: That is not what we were told.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: That is not what the committee was informed. The committee was told he was unavoidably absent due to a long-standing commitment.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Was there a meeting prior to that? Was there a meeting of some of the management team who attended that day? Was there a formal or informal meeting of that group of people prior to that meeting of this committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Was the chief corporate officer in attendance?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: After the meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: That would indicate that the chief corporate officer was in Dublin before and after-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Was there any communication with the chief corporate officer during the meeting of which Professor Kilcommins is aware?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: At the time, we felt it was important. I remember the reason that was given at the meeting and I just wanted to quote that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I will finish my line of questioning and let members in afterwards. Professor Kilcommins signed the contract for Rhebogue.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Many people, including me, find this unusual, given the history of the Dunnes Stores site. That site was bought for some €5 million more than the previous valuation and here we are again talking about similar sums of money. There could be a wide variation in terms of valuation when it comes to a commercial property but it is not the same with houses. I can tell Professor Kilcommins...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I ask Mr. Kelly, as corporate secretary, whether he would normally attend the meetings of that executive committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: The price for Rhebogue far exceeded what it would make on the open market as residential property, as homes. Was the issue of the price and valuation and also the fact it was being designated as a commercial purchase raised at that committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Those two issues.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: No, but the university was buying homes in a housing estate-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: -----on what is called the "open market". It is the same as me getting a mortgage and buying one of them. The university was buying 20 houses. It was not buying them commercially. It would subsequently become commercial at the point at which they came into the university. The university may have a commercial dimension then, in that it becomes student accommodation by changing the sitting...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: University of Limerick (9 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Yes, please.

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