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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Yes, the knowns. The question really concerns the cost of not doing it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: That is the analysis on which I would like to focus. It frustrates me a lot when I travel around the country and see massive advertisements for companies that will sort all of this out. On the figure of 757,000 premises, minus 300,000 plus another 80,000, the only amount we can take from the 757,000 is 300,000 because it is a like for like substitution. Eir was providing the same....

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Reference was made to that fact that no submission had been made on behalf of Eir or Imagine to do any more.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Obviously, because it needed to piggyback on it at various points. I see it as infrastructure for the future as opposed to providing home services. Any figure means that we are back to the moment in time issue. We do not know if there will be a massive growth spurt in some part of the State. The figures are all fluid, but, essentially, we are building infrastructure similar to the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Was it not the case that the derogation concerned the type of contract?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What is the alternative?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If it is a private company, however, then the process does not apply.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: The contracts committee gave a derogation but it concerned the contract.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: In this case, this is a private company. How would the Comptroller and Auditor General have jurisdiction over it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What is the alternative?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I have some questions.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: For the public at home, I understand we have high-speed fibre-optic cables running down roads, which are totally different to copper cabling. There is no loss of conductivity and is a totally different product. It has larger capacity with little or negligible loss of information over distance versus other forms such as wireless which we have had in the past. This will run along a network...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: -----without retendering? I am just making sure and hopefully, we will not still be here then but possibly we will.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: A sort of transition.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Obviously, in the event of a big storm on day one after the 25 years, the State does not want there to be no one there to fix it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Returning to cables being blown down, let us say that we have the dual cable, that is, the copper cable and the fibre up on a pole going down a road. Whose fault is it if the wind blows it down? If Eir has a cable on it, and the national broadband people have a cable on it, who is in charge of the poles?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: This is the provider's own personal business, a bit like the rental paid to MANs.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: For my information regarding circuits, if the cable is running through Portarlington and going to Kilkenny, for example, are there closed circuits on it such that if a cable blows down somewhere in the middle of Ireland, the signal will then continue in some other way?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I am just being a nerd here as I was wondering what would happen.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion (Resumed)
(28 Mar 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It can be diverted. If a multinational has decided to build on the side of a mountain, a storm in Portarlington will not mean it will be abandoned for a week.

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