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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Rockall is an important fishery. Ireland has never made any claims to Rockall but we have never recognised British sovereignty over the island either. Accordingly, we have never recognised a 12 nautical mile territorial sea around it either. That remains the position of the Government. At every opportunity, the Government is engaging with regard to access within the 12 nautical mile...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: I thank the Chair and Deputy Mac Lochlainn. It would have been preferable to have the fishing organisations earlier rather than later. I have certainly spoken to them earlier. I have been engaging with them on an ongoing basis. I met them approximately ten days ago for three hours. I also met them not so long before that to discuss these issues. There is nothing new in this to me. I am...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: I will move on to blue whiting. There have been a couple of negotiations over the past two years. I have had success working at European level on reducing the transfer of blue whiting. The year previous to the first year I started negotiations, the transfer had been at the rate of 9%. We successfully reduced that to 4% the year before last. We held it at that for 2022. Last year, the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: I am pleased that the Irish position has been taken on board and recognised by the Commission. The negotiations are ongoing but I was referring simply to our starting point and the Commission recognising our position and taking that on board in how it is approaching the negotiations. The negotiation has to play out yet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes, that has been informative in forming the European position. There will be other sides in the negotiation who will have a different view and there is no way of knowing how it will play out. I will be holding and keeping a very clear line of communication with the Commissioner in relation to trying to hold it to what we have established. That is all to play out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Would Dr. Beamish or Mr. Rihan like to come in on this point?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Listen-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes, I mean-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: What has been happening is entirely unsustainable and unacceptable, so-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Where we are at the moment is that negotiations are ongoing. Ideally people will cop on and we will get a sensible approach because what has been happening is ultimately unsustainable. The fish will be fished unsustainably and will be gone and it will be kaput and it cannot go on. What is important as regards the European position is that we continue to get our line across and do not see...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: No, and other steps have not been taken so far by the Commission either.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Thus far it has not happened. I have advocated strongly that it should.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: I have, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: The Commission's response is that it has been advocating very strongly itself on unsustainability but we have not seen any other steps taken in that regard. It is now over two years since the last agreement fell in 2020 and it is in no-one's interest to see this situation continue. Let us hope we can reach an agreement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: It is ultimately the Commissioner's and the Commission's decision.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Pardon?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Which argument?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes, absolutely.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Pre-Agriculture and Fisheries Council Meeting: Discussion (7 Dec 2022)

Charlie McConalogue: In fairness, the Commission has acted as the grown-ups on the need to be sustainable. When you look at the approach being taken at European level to manage fisheries, we are trying to follow science and make sure we get to a stage where all stocks are fished to sustainable yields. The Commission and the EU have been very responsible and proactive in engagement with other coastal states on...

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