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Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The Deputy will get his turn.

Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I am not going to stop Deputy Mattie McGrath, but he has spoken a few times.

Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The Deputy is entitled to speak, but I ask that he speak to the amendment.

Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: No, I will let the Deputy in later. I have a list, to which I must adhere. This debate started before I took the Chair. I ask Deputies to be a little focused in their questions because we have not made progress. Many Members have already contributed. I will relatively soon stop allowing in those who have already been in many times. I call Deputy Michael Healy-Rae, who will be followed...

Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I have given an hour and a half to this so I will not open this to debate again. I will show a little discretion with Deputy Naughten if he is asking a specific question.

Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I thought there was only one point.

Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: This will be the final clarification on this.

Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I should have clarified amendments Nos. 6 and 7 are related and are being taken together. In my haste to move forward, I forgot to say that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Thank you, Chairman.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I will start with parity of esteem. Somebody in Northern Ireland who identifies as English has the right not to have Irish nationality imposed on them, and somebody who identifies as Irish has British nationality imposed on them by default. Is that it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Okay. That is as England is interpreting the law, totally against the Good Friday Agreement, totally out of line with the Good Friday Agreement, except that is interpreting it to suit itself, to justify that approach. The difficulty lies then with the Good Friday Agreement does it not, in the way that it was drafted? My colleague here asked a question on a dispute mechanism, and I have...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I agree with what the witnesses are saying and I want to thank Ms DeSouza for her courage and persistence; I should have said that at the beginning, and thank her for her persistence. However it is not clear really. To the witnesses' reading and my reading it is crystal clear, and certainly it was very creative, allowed for a just solution, allowed for people to choose and all of that. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I accept all of that. However, all agreements have to have some type of dispute resolution because with the best will in the world, the good faith, and given the history of Ireland and England and the various pieces of legislation which I read, it was a constantly evolving process in relation to citizenship was it not with different pieces of legislation going back to 1922. It was wonderful...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: To confine it to a matter of interpretation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission is in the process of doing a review and is looking at all of the issues including the statelessness issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Perhaps Ms DeSouza could go back on that because I did not quite understand that. It was an issue that was raised in the Upper Tribunal as well, namely, if people are left with the option to choose, they are stateless until the point where they choose.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: On the review that is promised, separate from the Human Rights Commission, the review promised by Mrs. May at the time, has Ms DeSouza any hope of getting that published or is there any point in looking at that? Is it worth pursuing it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Does Ms DeSouza think it is something we should pursue as a Government?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: On something I did not quite understand either - we did not have enough time really, I look forward to the Human Rights Commission report that will tease out the issues - why has it taken Ms DeSouza's courage and determination to expose the problems on the ground? How come it has not come to the surface before? I understand there was a policy decision that made it easier. Perhaps the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Citizenship Rights and DeSouza Judgment: Discussion (4 Dec 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Would any of the witnesses have the numbers of people concerned? Professor Harvey said there were no winners or losers, ultimately, but there are certainly winners or losers in how they are being affected by the process on the ground.

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