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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: There is no-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: Okay. I do not need to ask that question. I know the answer. I appreciate that there is no intermediate position. Clearly, that is not satisfactory. I struggle to see how that is the Department's problem, given that the legislation was drafted by this House. I served on the committee that wrote it. At the same time, it is a very difficult position from a compassionate perspective. It...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: I can hear that mobile phone again. If people could switch off their phones, it might resolve the issue. I know iPads can interfere as well.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: I thank the Chair. My final question to the Department relates to payroll overpayments, which is a common issue in my experience. There is clearly a discrepancy between the number of payments that have been made and the number of recovery plans, full repayments or both that have been made. Can the witnesses highlight to the committee the reason for that? Given the reduction in the number...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: I see.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: I would like to go through the figures that have been presented.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: Plans are in place in 105 of the 216 cases of overpayment

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: No plans are in place in the other cases.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: I remind Ms McPhillips that we are talking about 2015.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: This is an interpretation of 2015 with knowledge of the present day.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: It is still highlighting a significant number of cases that have no resolution in place. I appreciate what Ms McPhillips has just said, but I cannot imagine that statistically, there would be 100 or even five cases of terminal illness among a group of approximately 2,200 people.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: I suppose the point I am making is that it might be helpful to the committee if Ms McPhillips were to provide a little more information.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: If I see in documentation provided by the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General and the Department that there are 111 unresolved cases, it would be helpful if-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: It would be helpful. We are not looking for personal information here.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: Very similar.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: Okay. How many of the 216 cases were voluntarily brought to the attention of payroll? I refer to cases in which people volunteered the information they had been overpaid.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: I thank the witnesses.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Farrell: It was said earlier that it was the "firm belief" of Mr. Barrett that there were more accounts.

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Transport Authority Funding (20 Jun 2017)

Alan Farrell: 1887. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport the funds provided and projects funded under the National Transport Authority's sustainable grants programme in 2016 in each of the seven greater Dublin area local authorities; the projects approved but not implemented in the Fingal local authority area; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [28891/17]

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