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Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I call Deputy Shanahan from the Regional Group of Independents.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Mr. Taylor and Deputy Shanahan.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I ask that Mr. Daly reply to the Deputy in writing on the matter.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Is Deputy Carroll MacNeill taking five or ten minutes?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: There are ten minutes for Fine Gael and ten minutes for Fianna Fáil.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Yes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Deputy Carroll MacNeill has used the five minutes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Other members will not have time. I am sorry. I cannot make time. Is Deputy McGuinness speaking for five or ten minutes?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Okay.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Mr. Taylor has ten seconds; otherwise, I ask him to reply with correspondence.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: The question is who should be on the forum. Otherwise, I will have to ask Mr. Taylor to reply with correspondence.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Mr. Taylor and Deputy Donnelly. I have a couple of questions for the witnesses before they leave. Earlier in the meeting, there was a dispute concerning a teleconference. We have found a reference to it in what the Department of Health provided at 9.30 a.m., but the document is heavily redacted. Unfortunately, Mr. Daly is the only participant in it that we can identify.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I appreciate that Nursing Homes Ireland has far fewer resources than the Department, but does it have records of meetings, emails and other correspondence with the Department of Health? If so, could it provide them to the committee?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Whatever correspondence Nursing Homes Ireland has. I do not wish to overburden it because I appreciate-----

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I understand.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I am sure that there are good reasons for the heavy redaction by the Department of Health and that it will provide them. We will ask for those reasons. The Care Quality Commission is the United Kingdom's equivalent of HIQA. It required that every care facility identify a clinical lead by 15 May. In Ireland, some HSE facilities have a medical officer who is responsible for the care of...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: In addition, perhaps.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Or is that instead of?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Was there something that Mr. Taylor specifically wanted to come in on?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Mr. Daly had an introductory meeting with Mr. Paul Reid, the CEO of the HSE, on 19 February. Was Covid-19 a concern at that time or did it emerge later?

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