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Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank Dr. Mulligan. When dealing retrospectively with children who have already been born through international surrogacy, is a separate model needed? If we come up with a core set of ethical considerations, we may not be able to apply that to those children. How would Dr. Mulligan deal with those children?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I am making the assumption that Dr. Mulligan looked at the debate last week. This committee was trying to understand or clarify where our role was with regard to the AHR Bill, which we are still trying to do. One of the suggestions that was made by the Department of Health was that we could just maintain the current legislative provisions and apply those to international surrogacy. I am...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Additionally, we might be having the same committee in six years' time in order to address the same issues.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Would Senator Seery Kearney like to come in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I would like to thank Dr. Mulligan for this morning. It was really interesting. The fact that we had that little bit of extra time certainly helped. I thank the witnesses for coming in today. I propose that the committee suspends while we await our next witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: On behalf of the committee I welcome Dr. Mary Wingfield and Dr. Aoife Campbell to our meeting. Before we begin, I am required to repeat the notice on privilege. Witnesses are reminded of the long-standing parliamentary practice that they should not criticise or make charges against any person or entity by name or in such a way as to make him, her or it identifiable, or otherwise engage in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Was Dr. Campbell referring to the state of Victoria in Australia?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Excellent. I thank Dr. Campbell. I call Deputy Higgins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I have a question on the clinics. Dr. Wingfield said she sort of knows which clinics are good and have good practices just from her relationships with them. What are the key indicators she would look for in a good clinic, as such? From her experience, do they tend to be in some countries and not others? I would like a bit more information about the standards in different clinics.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Dr. Wingfield just knows from talking to different people what she would consider a good practice.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Yes, absolutely. On the current situation, and this is all very new to me, Merrion Fertility Clinic is the only domestic surrogacy facility at the moment, is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: This might be a question for intending parents as well when they come in. From the process perspective, do people come to Merrion Fertility Clinic first because they are having trouble conceiving perhaps, and then consider the other options and routes? I am just wondering from a process perspective.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: We have plenty of time, if any member wants to come in with additional questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: This was a thorough session. So many questions were answered. It was really worthwhile. I thank the witnesses for coming in today and providing such clarity to us.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I welcome the witnesses. We are resuming our comparative examination of surrogacy regulations in other jurisdictions. On behalf of the committee I welcome Ms Natalie Gamble, NGA Law and Dr. Kirsty Horsey, senior research associate, London Women's Clinic. I thank both for joining us today. Before we begin I will read a note on privilege and some housekeeping matters. Witnesses are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank Ms Gamble very much. I call Dr. Horsey to make her opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: I thank both witnesses for their contributions. I now invite members to ask questions. We have a speaking rota and each member has seven minutes both for their questions and the responses of the witnesses. I expect we will get to have a second round if people have additional questions to ask.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: Does the Senator wish anyone in particular to respond?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on International Surrogacy: Surrogacy in Ireland and in Irish and International Law: Discussion (Resumed) (20 Apr 2022)

Jennifer Whitmore: We have to keep it within time, but I will allow Dr. Horsey to respond.

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