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Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Business of Special Committee (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: No, but we can discuss it in the working group. We have witnesses waiting outside to give evidence. We have invited them here and I would like to move on to hearing from them. We can discuss these matters further in the working group on Friday, which Deputy Shanahan is welcome to join, as is Deputy McGuinness. I know Deputy Shanahan had some technical difficulties last Friday.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Business of Special Committee (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: The last point to note is that arising from the proposals the committee has received and members should consider, the secretariat is preparing composite proposals. Is it agreed that those already prepared will be forwarded to members to give them an opportunity to propose changes by close of business tomorrow? Agreed. Our request for a fourth session has not yet been considered by the...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Business of Special Committee (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: It is five minutes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Business of Special Committee (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: It is five minutes per member as well to make a statement, ask questions and obtain answers.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I now invite our witnesses, Mr. Tadhg Daly, chief executive officer, Nursing Homes Ireland, and Mr. Mervyn Taylor, executive director, Sage Advocacy, to join us. I advise the witnesses that by virtue of section 17(2)(l) of the Defamation Act 2009, witnesses are protected by absolute privilege in respect of their evidence to this committee. If they are directed by the committee to cease...

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Mr. Taylor. I would now like to call on Deputy Louise O'Reilly, who is speaking for ten minutes.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Mr. Taylor. I am sorry to cut across him but we are quite curtailed by time because we cannot be here for more than two hours at a time.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I thank Mr. Taylor and Deputy Shanahan. The sad fact that so many people have died in nursing homes is a tragedy for all of us. We must find not only accountability, but also the facts. Is it true that Mr. Daly first met the HSE's CEO in mid-February?

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: In fairness, if the Deputy asks Mr. Daly a question, he has to be allowed to answer.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Thank you.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I remind the Deputy that our terms of reference are the State’s response to Covid-19.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I have no problem but I am required to keep to the terms of reference and I have pointed this out to members previously.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Mr. Daly indicated he wished to reply.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I would ask Deputies to, please, leave time for answers. If we continually go over time, the speakers at the end will not get to speak. I call Deputy Ossian Smyth of the Green Party.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: They have been requested and that request will be reiterated.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Deputy Shortall, I apologise, I must stop you.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Thank you very much, Mr. Daly.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: Thank you, Deputy Shortall.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: I am afraid cannot give Deputy Shortall time from somebody else.

Special Committee on Covid-19 Response: Congregated Settings: Nursing Homes (26 May 2020)

Michael McNamara: By correspondence, if necessary. Thank you, it is appreciated. I call Deputy Barry.

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