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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: According to that letter, there is an excessive number of them.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Like us, people in the HSE are accountable to the public. You have a seven-year term, as I understand it. Is it your intention to try to address that mismatch?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay, because that is what we need to hear.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: The correspondence I have mentioned was dated 31 October and provided follow-up information on foot of a PAC meeting. The letter was not very explanatory, but those were the figures in it. Does Mr. Gloster feel the embargo on recruitment is adding to agency costs? Is it having the opposite effect to what is intended? The aim of the embargo is to reduce costs and control spending, but is...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I put the question to Mr. Watt. The Minister and the Government decide policy, but is the Minister aware that this could have unintended consequences?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Is he aware of the unintended consequences-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: -----one of which is that the embargo could drive up agency costs?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay. We will move to the second round of questions.

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Driver Test (1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: 22. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport to provide an update regarding the number of driving testers recruited in the past 12 months and for those testers on short-term contracts to be retained. [3929/24]

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Driver Test (1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: 76. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport what actions are being taken to address the long waiting times in many driving test centres. [3928/24]

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Electric Vehicles (1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: 172. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport when the legislation will be enacted to regulate the use of electric scooters; and to outline what is causing the delay. [2900/24]

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: No, what I am asking is if they will be on the list.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I want to revert to the Children's hospital and discuss cost overruns. What is the timeline for the projected opening of the hospital? Will someone please confirm the date for the committee? I think Mr. Tierney was answering.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: So the opening date is the middle of 2025.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: When the total drawdown is sanctioned for the hospital, which is likely to be €1.4 billion, will the HSE commit to notifying the committee at that stage of what the drawdown is? There have been delays on this project. The claims run into thousands at this stage. There have been legal challenges. Suffice it to say, the relationship between the board and the contractor has not been...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Sorry, I want to hear from Mr. Watt first.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: On the site and the location of it, have they presented particular challenges in logistics and costs? Are there lessons to be learned there?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: At the time this project was signed off, Mr. Watt was the Secretary General in the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: At that time, had Mr. Watt concerns about the site and nature of the contract? I ask because there have been criticism and scrutiny, insofar as we can examine, of the type of contract that was used in this case. On the contract, the design and the hospital location, it is my view that those three issues have caused problems, delays and costs. In hindsight, does Mr. Watt agree that those...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: We all want to see it open and it is fair to say that its optics are fantastic. I have described it before as “an architect’s wow project”. Yet, that does not always match functionality and practicalities.

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