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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: We are looking at writing to get a pilot programme up and running, particularly in respect of antigen testing, which would link into the digital green pass coming on stream in a European context. The pilot programme would maybe have an air travel route to the UK, which would enable the logistics to be set up to have an operation in place when the digital green pass is introduced. What does...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does the Department of Transport have a role in this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: In terms of the process by which the digital green certificate is being examined at Government level, is the heavy lifting being done by the Department of Health?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: I cut Mr. Hackett off at the pass there. Will he conclude what he was saying on the key point for him?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: As far as Mr. Hackett is concerned, it has legal status in a European context-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: -----which all the individual countries have signed up to. What-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: What flexibility do the Government and the authorities here have in respect of the implementation of the digital green certificate? Is there any?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is Mr. Hackett's understanding in terms of the timescale that must be implemented?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: From what date?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Will Mr. Hackett elaborate on his concerns regarding the technical capability to roll it out? We are still six weeks from the middle of June. Is there time to overcome that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does Mr. Dawson believe the Department of Health is the reluctant carrier of the ball at the moment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Does Mr. Hackett have concluding comments before we move to the next speaker?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will follow up on the matters raised at our two sessions. We will write to various people in order to get a sense of clarity and to get a pilot programme up and running in order that there will be action. We see the key gateway in getting a roll-out and the digital green certificate up and running. We need a pilot programme and antigen testing, and these need to be linked to a timeframe...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is too late. There is urgency and we want to work proactively with all Departments to get a pilot programme up and running, with the ultimate objective of getting the digital green certificate functioning at a European level that is safe from a public health perspective and provides public safety for all passengers and the Irish public as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: We have made the decision to invite NPHET.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: The list may not make good reading but it is vital reading and I ask Mr. Hackett to send his list to the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Do Mr. Hackett and Mr. Dawson view the digital green certificate pass as the single most important element to getting the aviation industry, and by extension the economy, reopened in Ireland?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: Who contracted IBM and Salesforce to develop that app? Is the contract with the Department of Health? Did Mr. Hackett hear of the app anecdotally?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will follow up on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Challenges Facing Travel Agents and the Aviation Sector: Discussion (5 May 2021)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will think a little more optimistically than that. I note the Senator's reservations. I invite Mr. Hackett and Mr. Dawson to offer concluding remarks, maybe in a positive light, in terms of what should be done now. I believe the capacity is there and we have a timeframe but it needs to get under way immediately. In summary, what are their principal asks of the committee and the...

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