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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is okay. I just wanted clarification.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: The witnesses know my concern.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: We need the rents to be affordable after we have spent good money.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: With regard to the NFT, the Act it was set up under provides that: "...information on the existing and likely future skills requirement of the economy ... The Act requires that any surplus funding remains in the NTF account to provide for reinvestment in eligible training activities". We have covered that ground fairly well. Obviously the money is there and it is good to have the money but...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: To activate the findings

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is 26,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: My question is whether there is a problem getting employers to take on apprentices, not only in the traditional trades. For example, in Germany there are apprentice accountants and apprentices across a whole range of areas.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: Are the local authorities part of the 750?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: Did you say falling away of?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: Some local authorities are increasing their maintenance staff because the contracts are too expensive.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: From Mr. Beausang's answer, it is clear there is a push to develop apprenticeships, not only in the traditional craft trades, but also in other areas.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: Does that include the world of finance?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: There is a chronic need in the construction, maintenance and retrofitting sectors. There is a huge gap. Employers and contractors I know say they cannot get people who are skilled. There is a gap. I am told there is a reluctance by many employers to get into the game of apprenticeships. There is a separate problem that many people want their children to go to third level education....

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is anything being done in the area of mechanics and technicians? Every dealership needs them.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: For electric vehicles and internal combustion engines.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: On the C and AG's chapter, surpluses have been accumulating each year on the fund. A graph shows huge gaps between the forecast surplus and the actual surplus, and the actual income and actual expenditure, last year. It can be seen that not just the amount but the percentage gap is increasing massively. In that context and that of the conversation we just had regarding training for people...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: I understand we have to accept there will always be people who are between jobs, probably at the level of 3%. I am saying that, within those figures, there are people who are long- or medium-term unemployed. The training element in the community employment schemes, in particular, is minimal enough, yet there is this huge reduction in the amount of money spent on training within those...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: Could we have a note on apprenticeships are regards the initiatives? What initiatives are now happening? What progress has been made on them in the past 12 months in using the public sector? What efforts are being made to convince or reach employers to get them to take on apprenticeships? As regards the public sector, could the area of semi-State companies be included in that note? Have...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: What about the University of Dublin's €10 million?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 45 - Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science
Financial Statements 2022: National Training Fund
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 19: National Training Fund
(23 Nov 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is serious.

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