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Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay. So, welcome again, Mr. Browne and if I can invite you to make your opening remarks to the committee, please.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Thank you very much, Mr. Browne, for your opening remarks.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Thank you. Deputy Murphy.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Just speak in the general if you can there, Deputy, now, okay.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: I'm just-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Just to be general.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Mr. Browne.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: I'll give you another five minutes but I just want to pick up on this point, Mr. Browne. There were propositions that people who gave personal guarantees gave personal guarantees to many financial institutions and when NAMA was auditing its loan book, when it took it on board, that was certainly something that was visible in the NAMA. So, while you were taking personal guarantees, were you...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: And did you discover or uncover situations where a personal guarantee was already in place with another institution and you did not issue a loan?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Yes.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay. Would you say that the examination of the exposure in personal guarantees in regard to cross-guaranteeing at a personal level was robust enough given where NAMA found themselves when they went and looked at the loan books?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay, that's not the question I asked you, Mr. Browne. The question is: given what came out in the wash when the loans were transferred into NAMA, and the level of exposure on cross-exposure on personal guarantees, do you think that the ... that the risk analysis of personal guarantees was sufficient enough in Anglo?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: I'm not ... look, we know the paperwork transferred-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: -----we know what the details of that show. Do you believe, given what NAMA then uncovered when they started looking at each of the books and the personal guarantees that were actually given, that Anglo's risk analysis of personal guarantees ... you say it was a ... it was one of your performing criteria, but when it was washed out and what was seen, was it ... do you now consider it to be...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay. I don't want to be repeating myself, Mr. Browne, but that's not the question I'm asking you. I'm asking you now ... we know what happened afterwards. Do you consider it now ... you're going back to then-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: -----and that you think that everything was fine then-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: -----and maybe it's fine now even in that regard. That's what was the ... the visible to you then. Given what's visible to you now, do you consider that the risk analysis of personal guarantees was robust enough?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay. Thank you. Deputy Murphy.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Thank you very much. Finally.

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