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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Why did he not ask them for a written statement?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: I see. I want to be clear about this. Mr. Smyth did not ask anybody involved at any of the meetings for which there are records or notes whether there was anything else discussed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: With regard to the unminuted meetings, did he ask the participants to give him a written statement as to what they were doing on those occasions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: I want to understand this again. Mr. Smyth did not ask Mr. McCourt and the former Minister to put in writing, for his consideration, their account of the meetings that took place.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Did he supply that to the former Minister, Deputy Naughten?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Did Mr. Smyth say he spoke to them on the telephone?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: How often did he speak to each of them on the telephone regarding these matters?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Mr. Smyth also had the benefit of a written statement from Mr. McCourt.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Who arranged these telephone calls? Was it Mr. Smyth?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: I see. Was Mr. Smyth aware of who was with him when he was speaking to him on the telephone?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Does Mr. Smyth not agree that the advantage of asking for a separate written statement from each of these gentlemen is that they would commit themselves to a version before he started asking one of them on the telephone for information in a situation where the call could be discussed with the other?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: If Mr. Smyth asked both of them to come before him, it would be very simple for him to ask whether they had been speaking to each other since he last spoke to them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: I cannot see how a written statement from both of them would not have helped. Mr. Smyth would have known their versions of the dinner in New York and of what was discussed. He would have known the versions of the one, two or three dinners in the Merrion Hotel.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Mr. Smyth proceeded on the basis that the former Minister-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Did Mr. Smyth meet Deputy Naughten in person or speak to him by phone?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Mr. Smyth assumed that the written statement Mr. McCourt provided through the Secretary General of the Department had not been given to Deputy Naughten.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Was there any basis for that assumption?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Those statements were incomplete.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Who set up the New York dinner?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Mr. McCourt knew the then Minister was going to be in New York and issued an invitation.

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