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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Approaching the decision, Ms Moylan had to weigh up two competing responsibilities. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Do not competing responsibilities imply that there is a conflict? They are in competition with each other.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Ms Moylan speaks about the board as if it was a separate entity, but she was also a member of it.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Did Ms Moylan feel she could objectively step outside to tell the Minister that this is what the board wants and it should be approved?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: I think it goes back to a cultural thing as well and, perhaps, not a proper understanding of a conflict of interest. As Deputy Harris said, it was assumed that because Ireland was a small place, then it was okay. Before and after a board meeting, would Ms Moylan brief anyone on what was discussed in the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: On that point, when Ms Moylan went to a board meeting and gave the Department’s position, did she state she was expressing the Department’s concerns or that she knew what the Department’s concerns were?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: To what end?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Is it the case then that the board would be able to use that information?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: I see that as a conflict of interest because Ms Moylan is taking information from the Department that the board would not have, giving it to it and then it can use that in the best interest of the authority which may not be in the Department’s interest.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Given Ms Moylan’s position in the Department, this is a good example where a conflict does arise. Would Ms Moylan take notes at the meetings? Did she type them up afterwards?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: When she was preparing for today’s meeting, did she have to go back to the minutes and recall from best memory?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Did she speak to any of the other members of the board at the time before coming to the meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Not even to check if she could not remember what happened on a certain date?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Did she have any outside preparation or assistance in preparing for this meeting today?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Could she detail it?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Legal advice. Was there any professional help in preparing answers? Was that the legal advice?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Who would have paid for that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Would it come from Department funding?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: At several board meetings, board members absented themselves because they felt there was a conflict or a perception of a conflict of interest. At a meeting on 2 November 2006, for example, the chair leaves with another board member but then the replacement chair has to leave too because of a conflict of interest. From the minutes, it is quite common for people to leave board meetings due to...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Dublin Docklands Development Authority (Resumed) (2 May 2013)

Eoghan Murphy: Was the Department responsible for appointing people to the board?

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