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Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 34: In page 15, to delete lines 41 to 44.

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: This amendment is one of a number which try to effect change to the purpose of the Bill.

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I support this amendment. Unfortunately, the Freedom of Information Act as filleted by the Government will mean many of the Minister's proposals to Government will not become public knowledge until after they are disposed of, amended or approved. We will get some historical information, but will not have any access to the processes until after the event. Nevertheless, to the extent that one...

Seanad: Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report and Final Stages. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Ní aontaím leis an mBille ach tá sé níos fearr anois ná mar a bhí sé nuair a tugadh isteach é. Dá bhféadfaí déileáil leis an gceist bhunúsach a bhíá plé againn le trí cheathrú uair an chloig tá gach seans go bhféadfaimís a bheith ar aon aigne. I thank the Minister for agreeing to the somewhat unorthodox procedural move of recommitting amendments to Committee Stage. It...

Seanad: Fishing Industry: Motion. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I always say in debates like this that I will not need my designated eight minutes. However, the Cathaoirleach probably knows me better than I know myself at this stage.

Seanad: Fishing Industry: Motion. (8 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Each time I participate in a debate on fisheries, I am always impressed by the detailed knowledge of Members from the counties with large fishing industries. This belies any suggestion that there is a fund of expertise that knows better than elected politicians. Members are intensely aware of issues such as this and are more open to the experience of the people working in the industry than...

Seanad: Order of Business. (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: More than most people here, I tend to be impatient with progress on Northern Ireland. I share fully, however, the views Senator O'Toole has just expressed. The Taoiseach and the Prime Minister have devoted themselves effectively, efficiently and constructively to the process. The Taoiseach deserves to have that recognised. The House of the Oireachtas which has had a succession of citizens of...

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I will probably get myself into trouble with my party for raising this question. When I considered this section, my first question was why Members of the Seanad were excluded, but that has been discussed and I will not raise it now. However, Members of the Dáil will be on the committee and that means that outside a 25 mile radius of Dublin, when Members of the Dáil will be elsewhere, these...

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 52: In page 24, lines 42 to 45, to delete subsection (2). I would be foolish to pretend, in the presence of the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, for whose intellect I have regard, that I am an expert——

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I made a reasonable half compliment to prove I am in reasonable humour. I will not pretend I am an authority on the Bill because I am substituting for Senator Tuffy. The purpose of the amendment is to delete section 33(2). I invite Senators to try to figure out the meaning or purpose of the subsection. This is the reason we propose its deletion. It reads: Subsection (1) is not to be...

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I now clearly understand the purpose of the subsection but it raises an obvious question. What is the point of subsection (1) if it is not enforceable either by injunction or seeking damages?

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 55: In page 25, subsection (3), lines 39 to 41, to delete paragraph (a). I know a good deal about this matter. Legislation dealing with the relationship between public bodies and authorities and Oireachtas committees has come through this House. With one or two exceptions, where we persuaded the Minister to drop the provision, the legislation has stated, as it does here,...

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: There must be a few.

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: The Minister has made a convincing case regarding the Garda Commissioner. My personal objection, as distinct from the objection raised in the amendment, is that such provision is standard in all legislation dealing with bodies such as the Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland and others that are meant to play a role in public policy formulation. I accept the Garda Síochána does not...

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move amendment No. 56: In page 26, between lines 5 and 6, to insert the following subsection: "(4) Whenever required to do so by any other committee of either or both Houses of the Oireachtas, the Garda Commissioner shall give evidence to it on such matters as the committee concerned requests.". The point at issue is whether the Garda Commissioner should be required to only attend the...

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: The Minister is being unfair to the committees.

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: While the Minister has made a relevant point, he has, perhaps, over stated it. Perhaps that is how he deals with things in life generally. The amendment states: "Whenever required to do so by any other committee......". On reflection, that requirement is provided for under the compellability provisions.

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I was about to say that.

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Am I right in saying that the audit committee's reports will only go to the Minister and never be made public? I am only learning about the Bill as I go along.

Seanad: Garda Síochána Bill 2004: Committee Stage (Resumed). (9 Dec 2004)

Brendan Ryan: The Minister is trivialising this issue. The Bill states "the audit committee shall ... report in writing at least once a year to the Commissioner on those matters and on its activities in the previous year, and provide the Minister with a copy of each report.". It is not envisaged that the committee will produce reports every week. I would not be unhappy if the Minister had reasons some...

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