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Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: I agree with Senator Cummins that 14 is far too young. The proviso is inserted that children may carry and use firearms for hunting and target shooting under the supervision of a specified person over 18 years of age who holds a firearms certificate in that regard. People on provisional driving licences are supposed to have someone who holds a full licence sitting beside them when driving. We...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: At 16 years.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: If we are to win Olympic medals we must change our attitudes on many issues. We will not win any medals in sprints until we get more west Africans into the country because they are the only ones who win international events, be they Canadian, American or Australian. I have great sympathy for Senator Hayes's comments. While I think 14 is too young, gun clubs are in general very careful about...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: Shooting the ducks in the park.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: The Minister compared it to driving. It is not the case that any 18 year old can sit in beside the driver. It has to be someone with a driving licence.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: I know that. The Minister said anyone can sit into a car, as long as he or she is under the supervision of a specified person. Does that mean 14 year olds can only go out shooting with a single named person?

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: Does that person have to be named to the Commissioner before he or she goes out?

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: I do not think the legislation really states that.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: It does not refer to "a specified named person".

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: It has to be just one person.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: That is right.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: I support the amendment. I understand Senator Cummins's concerns. It is very hard on the occupiers of land to have to put up with something they do not want happening on their land.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: That will not happen here.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: Such problems are not peculiar to the United States; we have had similar cases in this State. It is an awkward issue because people can recover from mental illness and do well in life. If there is concern about a person, however, there should be a mechanism whereby a firearms certificate can be withdrawn with relative ease.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: This is a difficult issue because a person could possess a certificate and subsequently become ill. There is no way we can guard against that. In some well publicised cases it was well known locally that a person was suffering from a serious mental illness. In a small locality perhaps it is difficult for some to lodge objections against certain people who are known to be enthusiastic about...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: We cannot have cut-price health care.

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: I am sure that the Minister does not mean to trivialise domestic violence, but such a long time usually passes between people being reported and convicted that a considerable amount of trouble may occur. People involved in domestic violence always withdraw complaints. If someone has a conviction for or history of significant violence, one should consider not allowing that person to have a...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: I move amendment No. 25: In page 51, line 5, to delete "a person of unsound mind" and substitute the following: "a person suffering from a mental disorder as defined under the Criminal Law (Insanity) Act 2006". We have already had a considerable amount of discussion this evening about mental illness and psychiatric conditions. I am mindful of the words of the judge Senator Norris already...

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: Section 13(1).

Seanad: Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Committee Stage. (3 Jul 2006)

Mary Henry: I thank the Minister for his last remark. I would have thought that forgetfulness could be regarded as a mental disorder. In view of the fact that it is in so much legislation, I will have to put up with it. We get so many requests from the courts for more clarity that I decided to table an amendment. It would be harsh for somebody to lose his or her livelihood on account of the legislation...

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