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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: Yet its report to us states the initial household average figure would be equivalent to a household of 2.6 on the basis of the data.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: Is the Minister saying the proposed section 53A, inserted by section 8, is instructing the CER to base the average on a figure of four? That is the crucial point, but that is not how I read-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: I doubt it, but the Minister's understanding is clear.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 15:In page 8, line 25, to delete “exceeds 4” and substitute “exceeds 1”.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 16:In page 8, line 35, to delete “and”.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 17:In page 8, line 39, to delete “Water Services Act 2013).” and substitute the following:“Water Services Act 2013), and(h) international comparisons on average individual and household water usage.”.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 19:In page 9, to delete lines 2 and 3 and substitute the following:“(a) in respect of the first review, not later than twelve months after the coming into operation of this section,”. The paragraph to which this relates confused me. The Water Charges (No. 2) Act 2013 concerns the water charges plan and the review period put in place once the commission...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am on amendment No. 19. It concerns the first review and is on page 9 at lines two and three.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: My apologies, the Minister is absolutely correct. The two are connected, however. This concerns whether or not a review can be conducted within six months of the existing review. This is the point at which I may be incorrect. That seems to be a very short period of time, which is why I suggested a 12-month period. If I understand section 8(3)(a) incorrectly I am happy to withdraw it but I...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: If the water charges plan expires is the Minister saying there will be another water charges plan after that and what detail of that is relevant to this section of the Bill?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: On the basis of what the Minister has said I would be happy to withdraw amendment No. 19 but I want to speak to the subsequent ones.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: Some are technical so it might be better if we go one by one because if I misunderstood the Bill I am happy to withdraw that amendment.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: On amendment No. 20 I am not quite clear what the six-month period covers, under section 8(3)(b) of the Bill. Can he clarify that first?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: I tabled the amendment because I wanted the opportunity to tease it out and possibly extend it. I want to ensure I have the timelines right. There is the first review, under the proposed new section 53A and there can be subsequent reviews "6 months before the expiration of the period in respect of" the water services plan. When does the current water services plan expire?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: It expires at the start of 2018.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: The conversation we have had about average usage is instructive. Amendment No. 21 is a very simple amendment to provide that the outcome of that initial review is brought back to the Oireachtas for Members to discuss it. Deputy Cowen and the Minister have made a strong case that their understanding of the proposed new section 53A will do a certain thing. There will be a review. It would...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: The primary purpose is not to interfere with the independence of the regulator. The regulator will come before the committee whenever we invite it. It is for us to scrutinise the report the regulator produces which will then inform, under the terms of the legislation, the actions the Minister will then take to set the threshold and allowance amounts. The purpose of the amendment is to give...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: We have already debated amendments Nos. 22 and 23 and 24-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 21:In page 9, line 8, to delete "shall apply." and substitute the following:"shall apply, and (c) the Oireachtas shall be consulted prior to the conclusion of the review.".

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2017: Committee Stage (25 Oct 2017)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 22:In page 9, line 18, to delete “exceeds 4” and substitute “exceeds 1”.

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