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Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Just one minute now, Deputy.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: I'll be picking that up when we wrap up; don't worry about that.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Finish now, Deputy, if you can, please.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay, we are moving out of terms of reference now so I need to get back to information that's relevant to Mr. Went.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Mr. Went might deal with that in his closing remarks, if he wishes to.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Well, if you wish to.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Thank you, Joe.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: This is Vol. 2, page 11.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: And when you left in May 2007, do you believe that the institution was in good health at that time, Mr. Went?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay, Mr. Went, I'm going to wrap up and I'll then invite you to make any closing comments that you want. I just ... it just, kind of, following the discussion there that you were having with Deputy Higgins, and it was, kind of, in my mind anyway, I just want to bring up two slides on the screen. I don't know if you've seen them before. It's not ... I'm not going to be asking you...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: -----yes, and then we see an average of second-hand house prices to the average industrial wage and we also see a similar, sort of, reflection there. If I can just move on to the other slide, and what we have there is the residential house price annual, and we see it moving from 1992, the blue line being new house prices and the red line being second-hand house prices, both growing quite...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: -----of the noughties. Now, in your earlier discussion then, and we're, kind of, because we're moving to conclusion, that I would be looking, say, from witnesses as well maybe to give insights that allow us to, kind of, move towards findings and conclusions ....listening to you to this afternoon there seems to be three things, kind of, on the table with regard to the mortgage environment....

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: So you'd accept that?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: That's grand. And also then there's the issue of competition that you referred to earlier where a competitor introduces a new product into the market that has, what was the term you used earlier ... that brought different types of concerns to the earlier type of concerns. One was about the, sort of, the design of the product and so forth. You were on about here the prudentialism of that...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: -----this stuff as well. So, could I put it to you, Mr. Went, that, as a proposition and to get your thoughts on it, that during the 2000s right up to the property crash, as indicated on the slides that I showed, house prices were escalating at an unprecedented level year-on-year? Average industrial wage, as Deputy Higgins would also ... that the average house price was increasing by the...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: They should have been priced out but they didn't become priced out because house purchasing continued right up to the peak of the crash later in the decade because the figures show us that there were even more houses being bought. It wasn't that the slide is going up in price; the consumption of houses is increasing also.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: So, in any way, was this facilitated by the designing of mortgage products that seemed to have met the affordability criteria but, in actual effect, was camouflaging the price of the property or by extending the mortgage term? Like, so what we had here ... the design of the product was still meeting the affordability criteria but the price of the product was being camouflaged because of the...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Would you care to comment on that?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Yes.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (3 Sep 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay.

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