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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: When you ask people to leave, is that when financial packages happen?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: I understand that. There is obviously an element of negotiation or encouragement.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: If the person goes voluntarily there would be a financial package.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: We will go to a second round of questions. There is still one member who could arrive yet. I just got the note that he sent his apologies. I will allow four minutes for each committee member. We have a fairly full attendance. I call Deputy Verona Murphy. I ask people to keep to time because it is unfair to the people coming behind.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy is entitled to ask a question but not to make charges.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Ms Mullooly, it is a simple question. Are you-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Sorry, we are-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Briefly reply, please. It is wasting time otherwise.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Please respond.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy’s time is up.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: On the management team.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: We might let Mr. Bakhurst reply to that clear question.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: It was one of the big failures, and I think we would agree on that. I call Deputy Brady, who I had to stop earlier as he was over time.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Let Mr. Bakhurst respond.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is important for us to hear, from Mr. Bakhurst's point of view, that he is anxious for this process to be moved along.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is good to hear that. I have a couple of questions around the issue of agents before we finish. It is fair to say it is an issue that has come up. It has been one of the problematic issues, among a large number of issues, that have arisen at RTÉ. Have new procedures been put in place for dealing with agents?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is fine. Mr. Bakhurst's second point is absolutely clear to me. I want to tease out the first part of his response. He said he is not meeting with some agents. Does that mean that as director general he will meet with some other agents?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: Everything has to be signed off and any contract has to be signed off by the leadership team.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Brian Stanley: We will not have a situation where a director general basically rubber-stamps a deal, using their authority. Is that correct? The chief financial officer-----

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