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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: Is there a substantive issue of university staff not staying in Ireland because of the total compensation packages available in comparison to neighbouring countries?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 78 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Matters Arising out of Education Audits (Resumed)
Higher Education Authority - Annual Financial Statements 2011: Discussion
(4 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: Some people may question why we spend so much time discussing amounts in the order of hundreds or thousands of euro. There is a bigger issue of process that has aggrieved all of us. We had a meeting last week during which we were assured we had got to the bottom of everything in terms of understanding what happens. Not only did we find out that we are not, but it is then communicated in...

Written Answers — Department of Social Protection: Carer's Allowance Applications (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: To ask the Minister for Social Protection if he will provide an update on the application for carer's allowance in respect of a person (details supplied) in Dublin 7; when a decision will issue; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [42981/12]

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: I welcome the witnesses. I want to begin by directing a comment to Mr. McLoughlin regarding the comments made earlier to him by Deputy Fleming. I completely and utterly disassociate myself from them. Mr. McLoughlin is in here to do a job and to respond to questions from members and he should not be subject to that kind of language. I want to put that on record. Despite the start the...

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: That €74 million is a-----

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: That is a HSE deficit but it is not money that has been paid to the consultants.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: Could the witness explain how that works? Why this is a separate amount of money?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: I will restate that to make sure I understand it completely. Due to the fact that the consultants have not processed the paperwork, they have not been paid for this private work and neither have the hospitals.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: I understand. On another more basic question, why would someone decide not to sign the paperwork to get €74 million worth of income when it is not one individual? Maybe it is and Mr. O'Brien might explain that to us if it is the case. Why would people forfeit that level of income?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: That €74 million is due to the hospitals.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: Does Mr. Woods have an understanding of the figure due to the consultants - the separate figure?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: To return to my second question, what are the factors behind the non-claiming of a figure of that magnitude?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: To crystallise that point and I understand that Mr. O'Brien is only speculating, when an invoice is generated, that is the point at which the tax liability is caused. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: I will address my broader question to Mr. Woods because he is the one with the laptop over there and is tapping away furiously at it. If for no other reason, I am drawn to him. Page five of the very helpful report furnished to us from July 2012 describes the financial metrics for different parts of the HSE as it stood at July 2011. It broke down the deficit as it stood then by different...

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: Could he share them with us by region - by Dublin, the midlands, the north east and south west and the two hospital groups?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: I am looking at the actual year to the approved allocation and then the actual year to date and budget year to date. There is a variance year to date. Could Mr. Woods give us the variance figure?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: Is the figure €350 million?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: In this case the deficit, which stood at €351 million, has increased to €404 million?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: Does Mr. Woods have that breakdown for Dublin mid-Leinster and Dublin north-east?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote Management and Budgetary Situation in 2012: Discussion with Department of Health and HSE (9 Oct 2012)

Paschal Donohoe: The figure for the south is €44.7 million.

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