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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I ask Mr. Barry to listen to me. I am aware of the history and I know about working with residents, which is very important. This is the board's second time before the committee. Does Mr. Barry have an updated figure for consultancy fees paid to a PR company? In 2016, the cost of communications was €267,000. According to the annual report of the board, the cost of communications...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is a contract.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That emerged thanks to The Irish Times, not at this committee. It emerged as a follow-up.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Can anyone tell me the length of the contract with the PR company, the name of the PR company in question and the total cost involved?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I thank Mr. Barry but it would have been helpful if that information was here today. It is about communications, which is what we are doing here. We want facts. We are looking at how to avoid costs so it would be helpful. I asked this question earlier and have forgotten the answer given. Is the board renting a building? If so, where?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: How long is the lease for that?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: How long will that last?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: It will not be leased after that.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is marvellous. Can we get a figure for those as well?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I am coming towards the end of my time and I want to ask about PwC. Mr. Breslin sent us a detailed note.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is correct. The board provided a list. The information was extracted rather than given proactively. The list refers to design, build and equip and associated reports. The most recent was an internal report from November 2018. Is Mr. Barry aware of that report, what it cost and who was involved compiling it?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Does anybody else from the board know about this report? In fairness to Mr. Barry, he is new to his position. Does anyone have a cost for this? Is Mr. Farragher involved in finance?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I am not quite clear on it either. I got this from the board, as did everybody else.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The heading is, "Listing of independent and internal corporate reports relating to reviews, examinations or audits in relation to corporate governance or internal financial controls – 2017 to 2018". There is a list and then, finally, reference to "Internal Report" and "Process to Guaranteed Maximum Price".

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: To be fair, it is referred to as an internal report.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Is Mr. Farragher sure of that?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I am not sure what point I am making. I am trying to discover the nature of the report from November 2018. I understood that was the report wherein the board considered whether to go forward. The prices were rising and I understand the board commissioned a number of high worth companies, including PwC, to come in and advise it. Is that the report or am I confused?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Did Mazars run this?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Is Mr. Farragher sure of that?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Yes, please.

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