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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: We have gone through all of these costs. We did not provide in the plan for accommodation and totally relied on a charity. That charity is now coming back and saying it is not so charitable and needs a contribution from the Government. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I only want the facts.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: We will discuss the models.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The contribution being asked for is €10 million to start with and possibly more.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Is it a fact that it will possibly be more?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I see. When will the figure be final?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The planning application is done and dusted.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Reference to tri-location with a maternity hospital was included in the accounts at the beginning. Is this included as an objective in the 2018 accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I understand all of that.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I ask Mr. Breslin to bear with me for a second as I have limited time.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Maybe I put my question badly. The 2017 accounts from the board refer to tri-location.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is okay. I did not ask a single thing about money. I asked about tri-location. The 2017 annual report of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board, under the heading "Design", states: The following hospital facilities are required to deliver high quality, child-centred and family-focused services: - The new children’s hospital will be tri-located with adult and...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I heard that and I repeat the question to the board. Is the bullet point on tri-location included in the 2018 accounts? The witnesses might check that and revert to me. It is in the 2017 accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: No. I only have a short time and I do not mean to be abrupt but I am asking specific factual questions. I do not need Mr. Barry to repeat what Mr. Breslin has just said. I have simply asked a factual question.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I did not ask that question. I asked was it included as a-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The words are extremely important. They are down as-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I am not asking Mr. Breslin. I am asking the board because these are the accounts of the board.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I did not ask that. I asked if the bullet point for tri-location was included. That is all. If the witness does not know, he can come back through the Chairman.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I did not ask about the accounts. I did not ask about the figures. I asked if it was included as it is in the 2017 accounts where it is at the beginning as a bullet point.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Very good. The witnesses might come back to us. Who carried out the business case originally and who carried out the definitive business case? Costs for business case development in 2016 were €245,000. Business case development costs in 2017 were €43,474. Who did the business case and what is the total cost? This is a definitive business case that has, I believe, been...

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