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Written Answers — Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Culls (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: 662. To ask the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the persons or bodies that will be responsible for culled mink carcases; the way in which they will be disposed of; the persons or bodies that will supervise their disposal; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44537/20]

Written Answers — Department of Rural and Community Development: Library Services (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: 666. To ask the Minister for Rural and Community Development her plans to provide a new library at Ballybay, County Monaghan; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [44515/20]

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: Caranua is a unique organisation in the sense that it was operating under a fixed budget of €110 million plus any interest accrual, which I understand was approximately a further €1.7 million. This was money clearly set aside essentially for compensation but outside of that Caranua's running costs were also taken from that same pot and it amounted to approximately €2...

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: Does Ms Downes not believe there was any scope for saving within that €2 million per year?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: It was mentioned earlier that Caranua pays an annual subscription of €4,600 to IBEC.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: Ms Downs says that was to do with advice relating to staffing and employment. Does Caranua not have any HR officers employed?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: Caranua has its HR people but it also pays a subscription. How many times would it have contacted IBEC for employment related advice?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: Does Ms Downes have a sense-----

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: Can Ms Downes confirm that Caranua would have sought such advice on a number of occasions?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: What process would have been engaged in to decide that IBEC was the best organisation to give employment advice, considering there is a myriad of organisations that specialise in this particular area?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: Is it not renewed on an annual basis? Is it just rolled over?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: So it is a case of pay the subscription regardless of-----

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: So the advice has been invaluable.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: But Ms Downes does not know how many times Caranua actually sought that advice.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: What metric was used? A sum of €4,600 would resolve someone's bathroom or a myriad of specific issues, so it is an example of expenditure going to one place at the expense of another. I have seen quite a number of subscription costs. Was that appraised on an annual basis?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: The letter dated 4 November to this committee is on the record of this committee and it stated that all survivors are treated fairly by Caranua. We have heard testimony and reports that some survivors do not feel they were treated fairly. Is there a better way of reflecting that fact in Caranua's correspondence and the public record Ms Downes outlined?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: When one deals with these type of issues, I might think that I have treated Ms Downes very well here, while she might have a different view of that. Her opinion is as valid as mine. Is she saying that in this instance, in terms of the official reports of Caranua, her opinion is more valid than the opinions of survivors of institutional abuse who have a different view?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: This is the official language. The official report from Caranua states that all survivors are treated fairly by Caranua. We have testimony from people who say they do not feel they were treated fairly by Caranua. I asked Ms Downes whether she could amend the official recording of Caranua to reflect that and she essentially said "No" because Caranua has a different view from that of those...

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: My point is that Caranua's report to this committee, which is on the record of the committee, states that all survivors are treated fairly by Caranua. Some survivors say they have not been treated fairly. I am asking Caranua whether it can amend its official report to reflect their position.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Dec 2020)

Matt Carthy: But Caranua said-----

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