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Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: No, not suddenly.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: A garage man, to quote the Senator.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: With which the Senator agrees.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: With which the Senator agrees.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: Indeed, I will.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I am very pleased to accept the Chairman's invitation to be here this morning to have an opportunity to hear his views and those of members of the committee on the report of the Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland. I am joined by senior officials from the Department of Justice and Equality: Ms Anne Barry, Mr. John O'Callaghan, and Ms Mary McKenna. We are also joined by Ms Niamh...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: Anything I say this morning is, of course, subject to the assent of Government, but I agree with the Deputy when he mentions the importance of ensuring that the momentum which has been built following the publication of the recommendations in the report is maintained. I intend to publish an avenue for implementation in the near future and I welcome the Deputy's support in that regard. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: On the first issue of the board, I am not really sure if it is the intention of the committee to commit something to writing by way of recommendations to Government. If it is minded to do that, I would be very happy to give full and detailed consideration to such a paper. In the meantime, I thank Deputy O'Callaghan for his commentary. If the committee is not in a position to furnish a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: There is a view, which has been expressed at the committee, that there is a lack of clarity or an overlap between the roles, functions and operations of the bodies as currently structured. What I say is subject to Government approval but I expect that approval very shortly. In the event the Government decides to proceed with the new framework as proposed by the commission, a programme of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I would be concerned if there is a view, and I have read reports of some people forming a view, as the Deputy said, that the proposals are in some way weakening or diluting oversight rather than developing or enhancing it. I would be concerned if people were of the view that there is a weakening of oversight because I do not see that as being the case. There is no question of any weakening...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: The proposed recommendation is to the effect that the selection process for both officers and staff would be conducted with standards that apply across the public sector and, in that regard, there would be a function for such a board, namely, the Garda Commissioner under the supervision of the Garda board. I see it as being an important aspect of the recommendations for change that the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I would not accept that ultimately we will have something of a soft or cosy relationship between the Garda Síochána board and the Garda Commissioner as CEO. As the chair of the Commission said at this committee a few weeks ago, there must be a level of professional tension, as is the case with all relationships between a board and a chief executive officer. That is important to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: Four times.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: There are a number of Departments involved. One of the most reformist aspects of this report is the fact that the group looks at police and security from a cross-Government perspective. On the implementation group there will from time to time be Secretaries General from a wide range of Departments, namely, the Departments of Health, Employment Affairs and Social Protection, and Housing,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: The objective is to ensure there is a parallel process. I envisage that there will be at least four pieces of legislation required should the Government decide to adopt the recommendations in their entirety. The important thing is to build on the current momentum. We will have the implementation group and a steering committee thereof to ensure a parallel process is fully under way across a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: My objective is to announce the full details of the implementation plan and the Government's response in respect of recommendations by the end of the year.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I read those views and I listened to what the dissenting members had to say. In the first instance, I must state that all the members of the commission appended their names, signed off on the report and fully endorsed it. I am grateful to all the members for their commitment and their work. I note that two members of the board diverged somewhat on a particular recommendation concerning the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I am grateful to all the commission members for the time, expertise, experience and insight that they have brought to what is an important report. I am reassured that the members to which Deputy Chambers referred endorsed the report as a whole. That is the important thing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I repeat in brief terms what I said to Deputy Wallace who asked the same question. My view is in line with the commission's which pointed to a certain lack of clarity under the current structure. What is designed here will not add further to that lack of clarity but will rather enhance governance for An Garda Síochána. That is not only the view of the Commission on the Future of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Commission on the Future of Policing in Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I did not use the word "great".

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