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Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: Yes, I accept that. An extraordinary amount of money is spent on the health system. Last week, nurses on a ward I visited informed me the wastage in their hospital is extraordinary. The Deputy has a part to play in resolving these issues. The Minister for Health and the Cabinet health committee will focus on these issues.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: The health committee meets on Wednesday, 5 October. Its purpose is to provide political oversight of the Government's programme to change the structure and nature of the health service to ensure it is fit for purpose in 2011 and onwards. This programme will also achieve greater efficiencies, a far more effective level and a better quality of service both for those who work on the front line...

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: The Minister for Health and his two Ministers of State, Deputies Kathleen Lynch and Shortall.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: I have rarely listened to such blather in all my life.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: I chair the committee on health. The Minister for Health is its convenor. It is also attended by the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, the Minister of State with responsibility for primary care, Deputy Shortall, and the Minister of State with responsibility for disability,...

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: It meets on 5 October. It is completely irresponsible of the Deputy to say that there is neither depth nor substance in this-----

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: -----when, speaking as Minister on this side of the House he said he had not read his brief and that he had no responsibility for taking €1 billion from geriatric people in-----

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: Yes, it is.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: He denied all responsibility for it.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: On the contrary, the Deputy continuously goes back-----

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: -----to the programmes of Opposition parties. This party and the Labour Party have a programme for Government. It is very clear in respect of health and we intend to implement that over the lifetime of the Government. Even Deputy Martin will understand that, after six months, it is impossible to shift the leviathan that is the health service in a way that will answer all of the questions.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: The health committee meets on 5 October. We have a lot of committees to deal with and a lot of meetings to attend. This is a priority and the Minister for Health has been focused on that since his appointment and will continue to be so along with his two Ministers of State and the members of this committee as part of Government. Deputy Martin will have his opportunity to have his say here.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: The Deputy stated on the public record that he took no responsibility for it.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: Entirely blameless. He took no responsibility.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: Ask the question.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: The Deputy is well aware that the confidentiality of discussions at Cabinet and Cabinet committees is protected by Article 28.4.3° of Bunreacht na hÉireann, which states: The confidentiality of discussions at meetings of the Government shall be respected in all circumstances save only where the High Court determines that disclosure should be made in respect of a particular matter - i in the...

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: I will tell the Deputy why. The Economic Management Council is attended by myself and the Tánaiste, the Minister for Finance and the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform. It is backed up by Secretaries General from appropriate Departments and senior officials from Departments depending on the issues that are under discussion. It is a very effective way of streamlining business to...

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: I am not opening it up because of this.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: There are two referendums in October. We do not want one on Article 28.4.3°, not yet in any case.

Cabinet Committees (27 Sep 2011)

Enda Kenny: We will have an opportunity to examine all these matters after the presidential election at a constitutional convention.

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