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Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2014
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Cost of Bank Stabilisation Measures as at the end of 2014
Finance Accounts 2014
(3 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: What was the compensation for?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2014
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Cost of Bank Stabilisation Measures as at the end of 2014
Finance Accounts 2014
(3 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: I will finish with the point about collecting the money. We all pay our taxes. There is always a risk of errors being made when spending tax revenue. The view of the Department should be that it should raise the issue either with Mr. Walsh or with the spending Department. Significant sums are involved. If some of these things happened in business, the business would be bust. To take...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2014
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Cost of Bank Stabilisation Measures as at the end of 2014
Finance Accounts 2014
(3 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: Does Mr. Moran read Mr. McCarthy's book that he publishes every year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2014
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Cost of Bank Stabilisation Measures as at the end of 2014
Finance Accounts 2014
(3 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: Does Mr. Moran study the Comptroller and Auditor General's reports every year? Is that not enough signposting for the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2014
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Cost of Bank Stabilisation Measures as at the end of 2014
Finance Accounts 2014
(3 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: I have a final question for Mr. Seamus McCarthy because in his opening remarks he highlighted a difference when he said the finance accounts are not a comprehensive set of annual financial statements for the State or for central Government. What would he like to see included or instead? What is lacking?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2014
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Cost of Bank Stabilisation Measures as at the end of 2014
Finance Accounts 2014
(3 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: Who leads that working group?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2014
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Cost of Bank Stabilisation Measures as at the end of 2014
Finance Accounts 2014
(3 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: Is there an expectation that we might have a report soon in regard to that? Is it more longer term?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2014
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Cost of Bank Stabilisation Measures as at the end of 2014
Finance Accounts 2014
(3 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: It is a bit late now in this term.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2014
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 3 - Cost of Bank Stabilisation Measures as at the end of 2014
Finance Accounts 2014
(3 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: It is because the end is getting nearer. The thought has just crossed my mind that we should have, and I must recommend it to whoever chairs this committee in the next session, that both Departments, the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and the Department of Finance, should be brought in together to discuss an overview of the Comptroller and Auditor General's report each year so...

Written Answers — Department of Social Protection: Disability Allowance Payments (8 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: 99. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Social Protection if arrears under the disability allowance scheme will issue before Christmas 2015 to a person (details supplied) in County Kilkenny; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [43515/15]

Written Answers — Department of Social Protection: Illness Benefit Applications (8 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: 142. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Social Protection if she will review an application for illness benefit by a person (details supplied) in County Carlow, if the person will be given credits for the period of illness while not in employment and if the person is entitled to another benefit due to being unemployed and confined to home. [44249/15]

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Institutes of Technology Staff (8 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: 544. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills the number of staff who reached a financial settlement and then retired or terminated their employment and the number who paid arrears relative to their retrospective contracts or to contracts of indefinite duration from 2010 to date; if sick pay is paid to permanent part-time cleaning staff and the status of negotiations between managment and...

Written Answers — Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Grants (10 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: 106. To ask the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine if a forestry grant payment will be paid to a person (details supplied) in County Kilkenny, as all the paperwork was destroyed. [44615/15]

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: Are the minutes of the meeting of 3 December 2015 agreed? Agreed. We have received notification from the HSE that sections of the Conal Devine report will be released to the requestor today. The minute of the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, which is the formal reply to our report on the wards of court is still being worked on in the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: The others are a clear audit.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: It is a simpler matter in the private sector, where if the boss says an employee must do X, Y and Z and that person says, "No, I will not", then he or she will be fired.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: We might all be fired in a few months time. Perhaps those who have the power and who tell us they have the power and that they are in charge of the most powerful Department within Government, should just do their job or else leave and get somebody else to do it if they cannot. That is the reality.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes, that is surely the principle of it. An employer in the private sector will say how the business must be done and if that does not happen, the boss will not be too happy and will probably fire the employee in question. However, that does not seem to happen within Departments. In fact, nobody even gets sanctioned. When we raise this issue, we get all the spiel about doing what one can...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: Moving on, will Mr. McCarthy comment on No. 4.4, which is displayed on the screen?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 Dec 2015)

John McGuinness: We will note all that is contained in No. 4.

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