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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I ask Mr. McCarthy to stay with me. Nothing went into Galway city for direct social housing. We got quarterly reports. This is all factual. We got columns showing what was proposed, the amount of money, and in the final column it said "construction suspended" on every single quarterly report from 2010 forward. That is one of the major reasons we have a housing crisis. It is one of the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: What is the figure for the rental accommodation scheme this year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: We will get all the other figures. It is going straight into the private market. When, on behalf of the policy he has to implement, Mr. McCarthy talks about social housing, he is talking about private houses with very little security of tenure. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: HAP was not there in 2011.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Rent supplement and those payments were all temporary payments. They were to be temporary payments that became a permanent fixture.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I have looked at the totality. The totality is that almost 10,000 people are homeless, which does not count those who are - I hate the words - "couch surfing", those women who are in refuges and so on. Let us be realistic. If Mr. McCarthy wants to say it is Government policy, we stick with that and the officials implement it. However, when there is a view in respect of it, that is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Yes, just give it to me.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Really, I am not trying to find fault, but there is a statutory responsibility to inspect. How many inspections have been carried out, are appropriate staff levels in place and if not, why? That is all I want to find out.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: It was as low as 30% somewhere. Where was that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Does Mr. McCarthy have the figure for Galway?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: A 46% inspection rate in Galway city. What about the county?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: They are households; the figure is for the number of households, not people.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Households; it is a lot more people.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That was bound to happen; many have gone to HAP units.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: We might get a clarification in due course.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Let me just go back to HAP. There is nothing wrong with a sense of any scheme providing support. We need to support people. When it is the major player in the housing market, I have a serious problem regarding value for money. When a figure doubles within a year and continues to increase, I have a serious problem as a member of the Committee of Public Accounts. Built into that is lack of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Separate from the Oireachtas committee, was the association invited in by the Department? Did its members provide feedback on the rising housing crisis? I take Galway for example where no construction of any social house took place from 2010 onwards. I am sure it is the same in other local authorities. Was that fed back through the association, namely the rising crisis that was going to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Did Mr. Murray hear my question?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I do not mean to take Mr. Murray short but I have only a few minutes. In the specific role, did the association feed back to the Department the rising crisis as a result of an absence of direct local authority housing construction? Was that fed back through the association?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Murray is chair of that housing committee.

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